# 04/05 Gto?? **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [May 8, 2005, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170 "2005-05-08T12:36:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/1 "2005-05-08T12:36:46Z")
American or Australian? It’s assembly is done 100% in Holden, Australia What is your opinion. It’s kind of like the DSM. Eclipse-Japanese. Talon-American? Holden Monaro-Australian, Pontiac GTO American? ---
**Author:** ![taco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@taco](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/taco)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/2 "2005-05-08T12:43:28Z")
I see it as american ---
**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/3 "2005-05-08T12:52:00Z")
Cars are build all over the world these days, even some cars are built in different locations then some other cars of the same brand and model. Some american cars, like the focus are made in mexico. Do people consider them mexican cars? Some cars are build in canada. Then theres cars that are considered imports like the camary that are built in Kentucky. Even though they are built there no one in know would consider them american cars. Or what about the new Benz SUV, its built in Alabama. ---
**Author:** ![Slim\_06\_F-150](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d26b3c/32.png) [@Slim\_06\_F-150](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Slim_06_F-150)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/4 "2005-05-08T12:54:59Z")
i think the engine in my neon comes from mexico as well as some other parts, I think almost of cars are made all over ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/5 "2005-05-08T12:56:20Z")
yes, but the GTO does not have an American(Pontiac) VIN, it carries an Australian VIN from Holden the Mercedes, have a German VIN. the BMW’s stil hav a German VIN too, albeit being built in North Carolina. The Talon’s had a Japanese VIN ---
**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/6 "2005-05-08T14:10:58Z")
> [@Blue4](#): > > yes, but the GTO does not have an American(Pontiac) VIN, it carries an Australian VIN from Holden > > the Mercedes, have a German VIN. the BMW’s stil hav a German VIN too, albeit being built in North Carolina. The Talon’s had a Japanese VIN What makes a certain Vin distinctive to a certain geographic area? Also I would guess that not to many people consider Australia, as a country that manufactures cars, for example there’s American cars, Asian cars, and European cars. So would an Australian car be Asian since the area is the south pacific? ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/7 "2005-05-08T14:45:39Z")
> [@grandamld9](#): > > What makes a certain Vin distinctive to a certain geographic area? > > Also I would guess that not to many people consider Australia, as a country that manufactures cars, for example there’s American cars, Asian cars, and European cars. So would an Australian car be Asian since the area is the south pacific? Australia is continent, as well as a country. It has nothing to do with Asia. and each country has its own VIN code. It’s the first number/letter in the sequence ---
**Author:** ![raverjames](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@raverjames](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/raverjames)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/8 "2005-05-08T14:55:06Z")
My Dodge was built in Japan. Does it matter where the car came from that much? Aussie Fords and GM’s are sweet. I would take an Aussie Ford over an American Ford any day. ---
**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/9 "2005-05-08T14:59:22Z")
> [@Blue4](#): > > Australia is continent, as well as a country. It has nothing to do with Asia. > > and each country has its own VIN code. It’s the first number/letter in the sequence I know, i was just saying out of those three main classifications it fits into an Asian car. ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/10 "2005-05-08T15:25:08Z")
> [@raverjames](#): > > My Dodge was built in Japan. Does it matter where the car came from that much? Aussie Fords and GM’s are sweet. I would take an Aussie Ford over an American Ford any day. it’s more of a “just wondering” ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/11 "2005-05-08T15:25:30Z")
> [@grandamld9](#): > > I know, i was just saying out of those three main classifications it fits into an Asian car. geographically yes… although most Aussi cars, share European design characteristics ---
**Author:** ![ferrari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/82dd89/32.png) [@ferrari](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ferrari)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/12 "2005-05-08T18:41:34Z")
Alot of the new toyotas are completely designed and manufactured in america. kinda hard to classify cars nowadays. i jsut try to go by the company’s origin…makes it a lot easier. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/13 "2005-05-08T19:14:27Z")
who gives a fuck? :dunno: ---
**Author:** ![vw16vcabby](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vw16vcabby/32/5943_2.png) [@vw16vcabby](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vw16vcabby)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 8:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/14 "2005-05-08T20:15:05Z")
in my eyes, i think of the gto as a australian car. but thats due to being aware of the holden division. I still think of the focus as a european car too… ---
**Author:** ![childdamier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/cdc98d/32.png) [@childdamier](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/childdamier)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/15 "2005-05-08T21:44:33Z")
IMO the new gto…shouldnt be called a GTO, I think it does the name injustice, altho i like the new “gto” they should have just started importing holdens or kept the holden styling…i think its stupid that they had to downgrade a car just to sell it as a gto…maybe if GM didnt own like 50 car manufacturers we wouldnt be in this situation…i dont like the new charger at alllllll i remeber what the concept looked like and i have to say im wayy dissapointed ---
**Author:** ![The1SloR\_T](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/the1slor_t/32/5984_2.png) [@The1SloR\_T](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The1SloR_T)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2005, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/16 "2005-05-08T21:52:07Z")
> [@Slim 04 SRT-4](#): > > i think the engine in my neon comes from mexico as well as some other parts, I think almost of cars are made all over mine comes from IL ---
**Author:** ![Pewter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pewter/32/5936_2.png) [@Pewter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Pewter)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 3:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/17 "2005-05-09T03:48:41Z")
there talking about dropping the GTO already anyhow,it on this mounths GM HIGH TECH! ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/18 "2005-05-09T05:48:07Z")
> [@PewterSS](#): > > there talking about dropping the GTO already anyhow,it on this mounths GM HIGH TECH! thank god ---
**Author:** ![smokeyburnouts](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/smokeyburnouts/32/5987_2.png) [@smokeyburnouts](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/smokeyburnouts)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/19 "2005-05-09T05:49:42Z")
> [@PewterSS](#): > > there talking about dropping the GTO already anyhow,it on this mounths GM HIGH TECH! thats surprising :ugh2: :kekegay: ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2005, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170/20 "2005-05-09T15:47:14Z")
> [@childdamier](#): > > IMO the new gto…shouldnt be called a GTO, I think it does the name injustice, altho i like the new “gto” they should have just started importing holdens or kept the holden styling…i think its stupid that they had to downgrade a car just to sell it as a gto…maybe if GM didnt own like 50 car manufacturers we wouldnt be in this situation…i dont like the new charger at alllllll i remeber what the concept looked like and i have to say im wayy dissapointed how so? old GTO resembled a Grand Prix in the old days. New GTO resembles a Grand Prix in the new days. Old GTO, 2 door Sedan New GTO, 2 door Sedan New GTO outperforms every old GTO. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-05-gto/174170.md?page=2)