# 04/22/2007 ECC-N WNY Event 1 Thread

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [April 14, 2007, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647 "2007-04-14T20:20:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LAFENGAS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/lafengas/32/7573_2.png) [@LAFENGAS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LAFENGAS)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/101 "2007-04-18T12:41:44Z")

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[quote=“Viper966,post:100,topic:27647"”]

u have a CSL trunk and BBS ch’s now?

Didnt i ask u along time ago about getting CSL parts and u said no

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I don’t recall the conversation, but i’ve had the trunk sitting in my house since last october and didn’t feel like putting it on then since it was going into storage shortly.

CH’s are just the track rims.

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**Author:** ![dp2387](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dp2387](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dp2387)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/102 "2007-04-18T12:46:58Z")

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[quote=“Silver,post:98,topic:27647"”]

Oh yeah, I forgot you guys don’t have that class. I dunno what I’ll be in then, lol.

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Just whatever class you’d be in if you were runnig R’s.

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**Author:** ![Silver](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/silver/32/4953_2.png) [@Silver](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silver)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/103 "2007-04-18T12:50:17Z")

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[quote=“dp2387,post:102,topic:27647"”]

Just whatever class you’d be in if you were runnig R’s.

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I’m co-driving some elses car and can’t remember what he’s classed as. I could look it up/call him… but that’s way too involved for my energy level at this point in time.

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**Author:** ![MXS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mxs/32/7507_2.png) [@MXS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MXS)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/104 "2007-04-18T13:01:52Z")

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^^ if you’re driving Anatoly’s MR2, he’s registered in CS.  
whose miata??

[quote=“93dx–hatch,post:99,topic:27647"”]

not my car I am just borrowing it for sunday

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sweet deal!

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**Author:** ![Silver](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/silver/32/4953_2.png) [@Silver](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Silver)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/105 "2007-04-18T13:04:01Z")

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Apparently he has one. He said if the weather wasn’t nice he’d be driving “the Miata.”

BTW, can I get a ride out there with you, or will the seat be full of tires? I can get a ride with Anatoly if not.

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**Author:** ![Viper966](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/viper966/32/7268_2.png) [@Viper966](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Viper966)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/106 "2007-04-18T13:32:35Z")

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[quote=“LAFENGAS,post:101,topic:27647"”]

I don’t plan on doing very many performance things, just Dinan engine/transmission chips

Other then that, mainly aesthetics. I already put clear corners/markers/ and tails on today.

I have a suspension kit in the mail right now, will drop the vehicle 1.75" all the way around. I also have the titanium trim pieces in the mail as well… rather have that then the wood trim.

plan on:

35-55% Tint  
Angel Eyes  
AC Shnitzer front spoiler and roof spoiler  
Hamann 19" wheels or some SSR GT3’s  
That’ll be about it.

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Favorite LAFENGAS QUOTE

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**Author:** ![dozr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dozr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dozr)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/107 "2007-04-18T13:47:57Z")

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Dozr might just make an appearance in G-Stock… 🙂

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**Author:** ![MXS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mxs/32/7507_2.png) [@MXS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MXS)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/108 "2007-04-18T13:58:28Z")

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[quote=“Silver,post:105,topic:27647"”]

BTW, can I get a ride out there with you, or will the seat be full of tires? I can get a ride with Anatoly if not.

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I’m most likely heading out to Buffalo on Saturday but I won’t know for sure until later in the week. Or check with Brad, I’m pretty sure he’s coming and he lives kinda near you 🙂

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**Author:** ![MidgeX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@MidgeX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MidgeX)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/109 "2007-04-18T20:54:16Z")

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![http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/489000-489999/489489_92_full.jpg](http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/489000-489999/489489_92_full.jpg)  
ill be thurrr 187sm

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**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/110 "2007-04-19T07:13:22Z")

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Can’t wait to embar **ASS** mysself Sunday.

Heh.

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**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/111 "2007-04-19T07:26:32Z")

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[quote=“Bigairskier1580,post:110,topic:27647"”]

Can’t wait to embar **ASS** mysself Sunday.

Heh.

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you’re running the MR2? ib4spinout.

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**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/112 "2007-04-19T07:27:43Z")

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LOL.

Yeah, the MR2.

I am going to do my best to figure this things handling out.

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**Author:** ![Dex](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/dex/32/7210_2.png) [@Dex](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dex)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 7:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/113 "2007-04-19T07:29:49Z")

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[quote=“Bigairskier1580,post:112,topic:27647"”]

LOL.

Yeah, the MR2.

I am going to do my best to figure this things handling out.

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when the tall goony guy one the sidelines starts LOLing if you spin out…smile and wave to me. hope it doesn’t rain for you.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/114 "2007-04-19T07:30:53Z")

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^ it’s real simple. Get your speed right before you turn. Turn + Lifting throttle in an MR = spin.

The best way to take a slalom is steady throttle. Brake when the car is straight, then turn. Really, it’s the same for most cars, it’s just that MR’s make you pay a lot more when you brake or lift at the wrong time.

I miss my Fiero. ☹

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**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/115 "2007-04-19T07:33:53Z")

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Yeah, I learned about the powerful oversteer last year in the one event I did.

I was coming from an understeering AWD pig, so I was used to HAVING to lift throttle into turns to rotate the rear a bit and then power out.

I’m sure I’ll get it figured out, it’s just going to take some time and I’ll likely be last in SM times. But I’ll be smiling for sure.

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**Author:** ![dozr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dozr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dozr)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/116 "2007-04-19T07:36:01Z")

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Is anyone else in G-Stock?

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**Author:** ![sureshot007](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sureshot007/32/7345_2.png) [@sureshot007](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sureshot007)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/117 "2007-04-19T07:37:29Z")

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yeah, a couple of people 😉

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**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/118 "2007-04-19T08:03:50Z")

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i wish i had a car that wouldnt break when id autox it… and the del sol is pretty much sold now… ☹

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**Author:** ![StairSRT4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stairsrt4/32/7585_2.png) [@StairSRT4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StairSRT4)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/119 "2007-04-19T08:20:04Z")

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[quote=“Bigairskier1580,post:115,topic:27647"”]

I’m sure I’ll get it figured out, it’s just going to take some time and I’ll likely be last in SM times. But I’ll be smiling for sure.

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I might be battling you for last place in SM this year…This will be my first time in the SRT-4 really pushing it. It turns like a school bus so this event might be the test wether or not it should just be a track car.

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**Author:** ![dp2387](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dp2387](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dp2387)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 8:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-22-2007-ecc-n-wny-event-1-thread/27647/120 "2007-04-19T08:37:58Z")

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[quote=“JayS,post:114,topic:27647"”]

^ it’s real simple. Get your speed right before you turn. Turn + Lifting throttle in an MR = spin.

The best way to take a slalom is steady throttle. Brake when the car is straight, then turn. Really, it’s the same for most cars, it’s just that MR’s make you pay a lot more when you brake or lift at the wrong time.

I miss my Fiero. ☹

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2 things:

- you can use the throttle lift oversteer to your advantage once you get over being scared of it and are smooth with your steering imputs. I used this many many many times, especially if in the turn-arounds at ECCN. A quick lift to float the rear end could easily save 20 ft of plowing
- and on the slalom comment, I’ve been yelling at Wolff for the past 2 weeks for thinking the same thing. I garuntee you are lossing a lot of time with that aproach. i think it all comes from always hearing people talk about being smooth, so people take that too far. Anyways, the reason this is bad is, none of us are so incredibly awesome that we know exactly what the maximum maintainable speed is in a slalom. So if you’re maintain a steady speed through a slalom, how do you know how close or far you are from the breaking point. You always want to use every opertunity to be on the gas excelerating, not maintain constant speed, and you don’t back off till the front tires start to get overworked and thus stop working.

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