# '04 Grand Cherokee Idle Issue

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [June 15, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-grand-cherokee-idle-issue/156582 "2010-06-15T19:35:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-grand-cherokee-idle-issue/156582/1 "2010-06-15T19:35:16Z")

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'04 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the 4.7 V8.

Ran fine yesterday, and most of today. Went to start it when leaving a store and it now idles ~1700 rpms out of gear, and ~1300 in gear.

Replaced the battery (was only readying 11V); Replaced TPS, cleaned TB and IAC.

Still doing it.

Thoughts on what else could cause this? I don’t really want to go spend $75 for a new IAC just throwing parts at it.

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**Author:** ![CaptainKidd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@CaptainKidd](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CaptainKidd)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-grand-cherokee-idle-issue/156582/2 "2010-06-15T20:01:49Z")

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I know it’s a long shot, But when I ahd this problem with my nissan I had to do an “Idle Air Re-Learn” procedure. Not sure if Jeep has the same thing or not. It was a pedal dance with some idle time to let the computer re-learn the volume of air coming into the motor at idle and adjusting the rpms as needed to factory settings. Just a thought, sorry if it doesn’t help.

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**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2010, 9:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-grand-cherokee-idle-issue/156582/3 "2010-06-15T21:15:55Z")

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I’d have to guess something to do with a vacume leak?

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**Author:** ![L8APEX1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/l8apex1/32/7276_2.png) [@L8APEX1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/L8APEX1)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-grand-cherokee-idle-issue/156582/4 "2010-06-16T03:02:40Z")

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> [@llink78](#):
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> I’d have to guess something to do with a vacume leak?

This.

My parents have an 04 grand Cherokee that this happened to. Look on the drivers side within a foot of the firewall, It is a very common problem.

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**Author:** ![LUKE\_L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luke_l/32/7462_2.png) [@LUKE\_L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUKE_L)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-grand-cherokee-idle-issue/156582/5 "2010-06-16T06:37:19Z")

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Fuck.

I read a bunch of posts and it seems to be 50/50 on bad IAC versus vacuum leak. For some reason cleaning the IAC does not seem to ever rectify the problem on the 4.7 and replacing it is the only option…:shrug:

Maybe get the engine smoked?

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**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-grand-cherokee-idle-issue/156582/6 "2010-06-16T08:34:08Z")

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Replaced the IAC this am… still doing it.  
No DTC codes.  
No vacuum leaks that I can find.

Any other thoughts? MAP? Anyone have a scanner that will work on this truck?

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**Author:** ![LUKE\_L](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/luke_l/32/7462_2.png) [@LUKE\_L](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LUKE_L)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 9:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-grand-cherokee-idle-issue/156582/7 "2010-06-16T09:03:03Z")

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We could run it to my old place. John has a scanner.

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**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-grand-cherokee-idle-issue/156582/8 "2010-06-16T10:29:06Z")

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how did u check for a vacuum leak? just looking at hose, there could be a dry rotted/crack in one anywhere. u really shoud get some smoke for it

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**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 10:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-grand-cherokee-idle-issue/156582/9 "2010-06-16T10:32:13Z")

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WD40 and carb-cleaner trick… had the fire extinguisher sitting 4’ away. LOL.

Luke - My dad is bring out my laptop/scanner, I’m just not sure what OBDII network this truck has; mine can read anything but the CAN bus.

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**Author:** ![97FormulaWS-6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/97formulaws-6/32/7384_2.png) [@97FormulaWS-6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97FormulaWS-6)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-grand-cherokee-idle-issue/156582/10 "2010-06-16T17:35:29Z")

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Well, to conclude this thread…

Found it tonight… turns out it was a vacuum leak that even spraying shit down didn’t find the first time… Spent an entire can of TB cleaner but I found it… Spent $230 on other parts ($110 of which for a battery which I needed anyway)…

I had a cracked elbow on the PCV to Intake Manifold. Must have blown it off the intake the other day. Only issue is that it’s buried and impossible to see; you can only feel it. It’s under the cowl behind/under the back of the intake manifold.

Taped it up tonight; gonna hit M&M and find a replacement as soon as I can.

Thanks for the advice guys.

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**Author:** ![llink78](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/llink78/32/8037_2.png) [@llink78](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/llink78)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/04-grand-cherokee-idle-issue/156582/11 "2010-06-16T19:36:55Z")

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glad it worked out for ya… i would of bet any money on a crack somewhere 🙂
