# 05OrangeSS vs Samsara **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [July 24, 2006, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999 "2006-07-24T14:48:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Samsara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Samsara](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Samsara)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/121 "2006-07-29T12:30:17Z")
> [@05OrangeSS](#): > > WRX does not equal a top end roll racer…unless you have some massive turbo… 1. I beg to differ 2. or a stock TD04 with 58,734 miles :headbang:. Go! stocker GO! ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/122 "2006-07-29T14:13:41Z")
> [@05OrangeSS](#): > > no I said that it COULD be off…seeing how I changed them that day but whatever…and at that kind of speed it doesnt really matter. WRX does not equal a top end roll racer…unless you have some massive turbo… What makes you think your car is any quicker at the top end? AWD does not make or break a car’s top end, just helps it get out on the low end… ---
**Author:** ![Samsara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Samsara](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Samsara)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/123 "2006-07-29T15:47:44Z")
Im ready. Tonight at 11pm, PM me for location. ---
**Author:** ![AngryHero](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/angryhero/32/7495_2.png) [@AngryHero](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AngryHero)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/124 "2006-07-29T17:13:44Z")
> [@05OrangeSS](#): > > no I said that it COULD be off…seeing how I changed them that day but whatever…and at that kind of speed it doesnt really matter. WRX does not equal a top end roll racer…unless you have some massive turbo… my bad i think you said something along those lines though ---
**Author:** ![98FREAKGTP](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/98freakgtp/32/7213_2.png) [@98FREAKGTP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/98FREAKGTP)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/125 "2006-07-29T17:24:25Z")
> [@Jack](#): > > What makes you think your car is any quicker at the top end?.. Appparently its not, or this thread wouldn’t exist. :biglaugh: ---
**Author:** ![CobaltSS422](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@CobaltSS422](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CobaltSS422)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/126 "2006-07-29T17:52:47Z")
time is running out. 2 hours and counting ---
**Author:** ![articzap](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/articzap/32/7361_2.png) [@articzap](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/articzap)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/127 "2006-07-29T18:00:48Z")
time to charge the camera ---
**Author:** ![Samsara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Samsara](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Samsara)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/128 "2006-07-29T18:04:30Z")
PM me for directions, I have a place in mind I still need confirmation from ORANGESS ---
**Author:** ![articzap](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/articzap/32/7361_2.png) [@articzap](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/articzap)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 6:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/129 "2006-07-29T18:35:45Z")
batteries for vid cam are charged, if u wanan do this. chris has my cell, ill meet ya guys ne where ---
**Author:** ![CobaltSS422](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@CobaltSS422](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CobaltSS422)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/130 "2006-07-29T18:57:50Z")
1 more hour… lol :jeopardymusic: ---
**Author:** ![Samsara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Samsara](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Samsara)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/131 "2006-07-29T18:58:53Z")
what do I do, do I show up there? has anyone talked to CobaltSS? my car runs like shat in this humiditiy, im counting on his also ---
**Author:** ![articzap](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/articzap/32/7361_2.png) [@articzap](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/articzap)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/132 "2006-07-29T19:01:25Z")
if you guys need a camera man msg me now! my battery is charged and i got 1hr of tape. ---
**Author:** ![CobaltSS422](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@CobaltSS422](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CobaltSS422)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/133 "2006-07-29T19:05:23Z")
i think it’s raining… haven’t heard from chris ---
**Author:** ![articzap](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/articzap/32/7361_2.png) [@articzap](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/articzap)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/134 "2006-07-29T23:03:18Z")
vids up hopefully by end of tonight or tmw morning ---
**Author:** ![NA-KING](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/na-king/32/7515_2.png) [@NA-KING](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NA-KING)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 11:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/135 "2006-07-29T23:07:46Z")
I’m supposed to see chris tomarrow, so i’ll tell him. ---
**Author:** ![CobaltSS422](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@CobaltSS422](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CobaltSS422)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/136 "2006-07-30T09:07:26Z")
> [@articzap](#): > > vids up hopefully by end of tonight or tmw morning so it ended up happening? ---
**Author:** ![Samsara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Samsara](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Samsara)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/137 "2006-07-30T09:18:10Z")
It all comes down to gearing. I cant stop at 115-120 vs. a cobalt. The first 2 runs were kinda bonk for me, especially the first one, i don’t know what was up. I shift into 4th at ~110, he is at ~6,000 in 3rd at 105-110. So the second set of runs were…me in front, i shift 4th…3-4 seconds goes bye, he shuts down. After I get into fourth for a second I start to pull on him because he just went into fourth. So If we run to 130 like last time I would be 1-2 cars ahead again?? because id be higher in 4th’s RPM’s that he would. so, 50-120 hes got me cause of the shift. Im a blazin retard cause we ran “my” 30 roll to …120…shit. If we were to run 30-100(70 diff) I would get him. or up to ~130. If we go higher than 115 I will pass him just like he passes me. I get the first set of runs, you get these…1-1 This explains everything, if I would have picked my speed to stop at 100 we would have tied 1-1…then dig as tie breaker like you said…LOL. The difference in gearing makes this matchup about speed choice. 50-120 is a 70 span, 30-100 is also. I hope there is good footage of the second set of runs last night. maybe my memory is blurred…we’ll check it out. OrangeSS, does that seem sensible? Wasn’t I in front in the begging, and end of my 3rd? ---
**Author:** ![articzap](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/articzap/32/7361_2.png) [@articzap](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/articzap)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/138 "2006-07-30T09:26:58Z")
i have to go buy a car, when i get bak ill finsh up the video, its 75% done ---
**Author:** ![05OrangeSS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/eada6e/32.png) [@05OrangeSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/05OrangeSS)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/139 "2006-07-30T09:29:18Z")
> [@Samsara](#): > > It all comes down to gearing. I cant stop at 115-120 vs. a cobalt. The first 2 runs were kinda bonk for me, especially the first one, i don’t know what was up. I shift into 4th at ~110, he is at ~6,000 in 3rd at 105-110. So the second set of runs were…me in front, i shift 4th…3-4 seconds goes bye, he shuts down. After I get into fourth for a second I start to pull on him because he just went into fourth. So If we run to 130 like last time I would be 1-2 cars ahead again?? because id be higher in 4th’s RPM’s that he would. > > so, 50-120 hes got me cause of the shift. Im a blazin retard cause we ran “my” 30 roll to …120…shit. If we were to run 30-100(70 diff) I would get him. or up to ~130. If we go higher than 115 I will pass him just like he passes me. > > I get the first set of runs, you get these…1-1 > > This explains everything, if I would have picked my speed to stop at 100 we would have tied 1-1…then dig as tie breaker like you said…LOL. > > The difference in gearing makes this matchup about speed choice. 50-120 is a 70 span, 30-100 is also. I hope there is good footage of the second set of runs last night. maybe my memory is blurred…we’ll check it out. > > OrangeSS, does that seem sensible? Wasn’t I in front in the begging, and end of my 3rd? Aparently your gearing is just a little bit shorter, when you were going into 3rd I was still in second, and when you were going into 4th I still had about 1000rpms left in my 3rd. So if anyone has the balls to go to 150+ I would assume it would be the same way…but I don’t have a death wish and Im going to assume that you wouldn’t want to do something like that either…Before you shift I would say it’s pretty close to even, then the second you have to shift I take a lead…you can kind of see that in the vid dave got…lol still want to dig race when better weather rolls around?(street warriorz thing at lancaster, just throwin it out there) ---
**Author:** ![articzap](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/articzap/32/7361_2.png) [@articzap](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/articzap)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999/140 "2006-07-30T09:30:53Z")
totally do the lancaster thing, legal drag racing ftw [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/05orangess-vs-samsara/14999.md?page=8)