# 1 dead, 3 injured in shooting at a Harlem park

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**Created:** [July 26, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1-dead-3-injured-in-shooting-at-a-harlem-park/264520 "2012-07-26T14:05:13Z")
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### Author: ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)
#### Post date: [July 26, 2012, 2:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1-dead-3-injured-in-shooting-at-a-harlem-park/264520/12 "2012-07-26T14:55:55Z")

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> [@FS: 96 Accord 2dr 5spd](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-96-accord-2dr-5spd/39495/54):
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> A man goes on such a quick shooting spree that even if somebody in the crowd had a gun, it would have changed nothing - Conservative Fail
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> If anybody brings up an argument of this would have never happened if others were armed nobody would go shooting - I can bring up a ton of articles where people go on rampages of shooting at the cops and the controversial shootings in military bases. - conservative logic fail.

So let me get this straight… You’re throwing the “if” card out there saying nothing would’ve changed had someone in the crowd had a gun… Then go on to say that “if” anybody brings up an argument about armed citizens preventing this…

When in the CO thread, you’re all “anti-if” when it comes to people making assumptions…

> [@happy b-day MINDLESS](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/happy-b-day-mindless/50281/10):
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> Going 186 mph lands you in jail just as well and you’re a speeding bullet whizzing by innocent motorists in many cases when bikers do it.
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> I don’t get what’s so hard to understand.
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> Gun laws don’t work.
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> Everybody having a gun and other types of weapons being unrestricted doesn’t work either.
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> There is an optimalish medium in between, which is kind of where out society is right now.

You can’t say a speeding car is anything like a bullet. While both speeding like an a-hole and shooting in public (in any direction) will end up with someone in jail, the media and antis will twist one of those things to show why people shouldn’t have something.

To be straight, here’s where I stand on gun laws:  
Licenses to OWN handguns = bullshit  
Licenses to CARRY handguns = understandable, though 6+ months of waiting is BS.  
“Assault” weapon bans = bullshit  
Mag capacity bans = bullshit  
Legitimate assault weapon bans = whatever, not for or against it. Should be similar to getting a concealed carry permit for handguns.  
Suppressor bans = bullshit.  
Short barreled rifle bans = bullshit  
Background checks = 100% for. It prevents legal guns from getting into a felon’s hands to a point. They will not, however, prevent a criminal from getting a gun.

As Vlad said, gun laws are usually pointless.

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