# 1 dead, 3 injured in shooting at a Harlem park

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**Created:** [July 26, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1-dead-3-injured-in-shooting-at-a-harlem-park/264520 "2012-07-26T14:05:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![silverandslow1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@silverandslow1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow1)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1-dead-3-injured-in-shooting-at-a-harlem-park/264520/35 "2012-08-03T21:46:35Z")

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> [@uh oh... Mac users beware](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/uh-oh-mac-users-beware/50330/22):
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> It did happen to fast, I believe all within 90 seconds. For the first 30 seconds you’ll be covering behind your seat just trying to figure out whats going, crying from tear gas and blind from smoke and and maybe getting ready to pull the gun out, just to be blasted after you hit his body armor when the screen is lighting up the seats quite well.
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> Your examples of internet cafe and brazzilian robbery would be a useful counter argument if it happened in the dark, with a crowd of over 100 panicking people and attacker was strapped to the teeth and bullet proof, while the hero gunman managed to sneak a hero headshot while being pepper sprayed or the equivalent.
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> Even if Holywood put Rambo into that scene and pulled the shot off, you’d look at the screen and go “yeah right, fucking Holywood”.

30 seconds of covering behind a seat?..interesting

Body armor isn’t a invinsibilty shield and the fact that your idea of tactics is assessing an active shooter for half a minute before even drawing your gun, or that a person is impervious to pain and unstoppable because they have a bulletproof vest on leads me to realise that your hollywood outlook on an appropriate and realistic reaction for this and other scenarios is not even worth getting into.

Person with a gun in the crowd \> none

However, even how off base your idea of the 30 second assessment, and COD juggernaught body armor idea is I will admit its a difficult situation and even if someone had a gun they would have to be in the right place, with the right training to make a difference.

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