# 10-7-08 Debate thread
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [October 7, 2008, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088 "2008-10-07T18:00:12Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/41 "2008-10-07T19:13:25Z")
so how much of this crap is happening because their PR people told them to act/speak a certain way? I bet that has a huuuuuge effect
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### Author:  [@mechanicalmadness](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mechanicalmadness)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/42 "2008-10-07T19:16:32Z")
Hard to say. They on occasion seem to put some passion into what they say
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### Author:  [@ineedacar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ineedacar)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/43 "2008-10-07T19:16:55Z")
I don’t know whats getting more annoying… “My friends” or "I know how to do it… [absence of explanation] …)
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### Author:  [@mechanicalmadness](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mechanicalmadness)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/44 "2008-10-07T19:17:29Z")
man, this presidential debate might just get ugly
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### Author:  [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/45 "2008-10-07T19:21:39Z")
> [@mechanicalmadness](#):
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> Awesome story, a cute one as well. Now imagine suzie has a company that makes 1 million a year, and pays 500 bucks a week in taxes (hypothetical situation relax).
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> Now you have Jesse makes 5000 a year and pays 200 a week in taxes. Shouldnt jesse get a tax break? Nah lets not help her out. But wait. We can give her low interest loans so that she can spend spend spend!!! yay!!!
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> Democrats do not proposoe what is depicted in your story. That seems like comunism. Great in theory but flawed in practice due to the components involved(people)
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> No where do they say you cant work your way up and succeed. They are simply implying that the rich should pay some more dues.
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> But honestly. How much work do you honestly believe that a CEO of a 1 billion dollar company actually does?
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> Please answer that I would love to hear your answer
i think you’re taking the story way to serious, it’s a joke. CEO’s I’d bet do a hell of alot more work than any of us do and as far as taxes go… a million dollar a week company is taxed to death, trust me. I own a relatively large business and I can assure you that I have to sign more checks for more bullshit fees/taxes from our asshole government than anyone could ever imagine. Do you know I have to pay tax on the money I pay our employees? seriously, I can’t even pay people without paying a fucking tax.
All I want is for my money to be spent better, I don’t care who does it as long as they stop wasting it and handing it out to people who don’t deserve it. That’s all I ask and I don’t think that’s asking too much.
Let’s decide to get someone into office who is worth a damn, if we don’t agree on who that is then that’s ok. That’s what this country was founded on.
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### Author:  [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/46 "2008-10-07T19:23:44Z")
> [@mechanicalmadness](#):
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> man, this presidential debate might just get ugly
agreed, it’s not pretty and it’s not getting better.
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### Author:  [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/47 "2008-10-07T19:24:07Z")
lol wow he was stumbling a bit about Russia
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### Author:  [@ineedacar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ineedacar)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/48 "2008-10-07T19:25:58Z")
This is just getting stupid now. McCain just lost himself this election without a doubt. The old bag of shit can eat my friendly fart bubbles.
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### Author:  [@mechanicalmadness](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mechanicalmadness)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/49 "2008-10-07T19:32:50Z")
> [@TORQDSS](#):
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> i think you’re taking the story way to serious, it’s a joke. CEO’s I’d bet do a hell of alot more work than any of us do and as far as taxes go… a million dollar a week company is taxed to death, trust me. I own a relatively large business and I can assure you that I have to sign more checks for more bullshit fees/taxes from our asshole government than anyone could ever imagine. Do you know I have to pay tax on the money I pay our employees? seriously, I can’t even pay people without paying a fucking tax.
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> All I want is for my money to be spent better, I don’t care who does it as long as they stop wasting it and handing it out to people who don’t deserve it. That’s all I ask and I don’t think that’s asking too much.
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> Let’s decide to get someone into office who is worth a damn, if we don’t agree on who that is then that’s ok. That’s what this country was founded on.
holly shit are you sure you are a republican? We seem to share simmilar views. honestly man Im a blue pyjama wearing monkey. you probably spend more in taxes in a 2 month period than i make in a year. i do agree that tax money needs to be spent better.
What does your business do anyhow? Feel free to PM me if you dont feel comfortable discussing it publicly
I have had the privelge of actually talking to some uppidy ups many moons ago. I have a few friends here and there with an obscene amount of money, and they on occasion keep such company. Good guys, great actually. But honestly they rarely bust hump on a regular 9-5 fashion. They are pretty much on call 24/7 but ultimately they regulate their hours
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### Author:  [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/50 "2008-10-07T19:37:49Z")
> [@mechanicalmadness](#):
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> Narow minded republicans. Keep up the good work;)
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> Corruption at its best.
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> Lets screw the public and help the filthy rich. YAY elephant!!!
considering it was the democrats that caused the housing market problems that are now occuring…:picard:
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### Author:  [@Dr.Stevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Dr.Stevil)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/51 "2008-10-07T19:38:05Z")
I think they both did ok. Liked the format
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### Author:  [@mechanicalmadness](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mechanicalmadness)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/52 "2008-10-07T19:38:07Z")
I laugh every time McCain brings up his service reccord. didnt he get shot down 4 times?
does that mean that he gets 2 crash and burn incidents per term? Or perhaps 1 every year for one term?
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### Author:  [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/53 "2008-10-07T19:38:43Z")
> [@mechanicalmadness](#):
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> holly shit are you sure you are a republican? We seem to share simmilar views. honestly man Im a blue pyjama wearing monkey. you probably spend more in taxes in a 2 month period than i make in a year. i do agree that tax money needs to be spent better.
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> What does your business do anyhow? Feel free to PM me if you dont feel comfortable discussing it publicly
PM’d…
As for our views, they are similar because we aren’t retarded. I’m a Republican but I tend to vote for the person who isn’t totally useless regardless of party affiliation… unfortunately I haven’t voted in my life yet 🙂
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### Author:  [@mechanicalmadness](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mechanicalmadness)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/54 "2008-10-07T19:38:56Z")
> [@JEG](#):
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> considering it was the democrats that caused the housing market problems that are now occuring…:picard:
Honestly i doubt it can be blamed on one party. i think they are both equally responcible.
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### Author:  [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/55 "2008-10-07T19:39:25Z")
Hello MY FRIENDS im going to shower now MY FRIENDS I will talk to all of you later MY FRIENDS!
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### Author:  [@TORQDSS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TORQDSS)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/56 "2008-10-07T19:40:39Z")
I think everyone in office is responsible for our current situation and we are responsible for allowing retards into office
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### Author:  [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/57 "2008-10-07T19:41:26Z")
> [@ILCisDEAD](#):
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> Fucking hay maker with the “we don’t have time for on the job training”
yeah that was a good line
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### Author:  [@JEG](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JEG)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/58 "2008-10-07T19:43:01Z")
> [@TORQDSS](#):
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> I think everyone in office is responsible for our current situation and we are responsible for allowing retards into office
Touche lol
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### Author:  [@mechanicalmadness](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mechanicalmadness)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/59 "2008-10-07T19:44:48Z")
> [@TORQDSS](#):
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> I think everyone in office is responsible for our current situation and we are responsible for allowing retards into office
Yup.
Well except for me
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### Author:  [@StrokedZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/StrokedZ28)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2008, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/10-7-08-debate-thread/56088/60 "2008-10-07T19:48:39Z")
> [@JEG](#):
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> considering it was the democrats that caused the housing market problems that are now occuring…:picard:
Source this.
It was Republicans that wanted to deregulate the banking market. The law passed in 1999 that deregulated the banking system was introduced and pushed for by Republicans.
Explain to me how Democrats brought about this problem.
As far as the Debate:
1. No knockout punches this round.
2. Obama came off as cooler and answered more of the questions, althought there def were times when he seem to skip out on a few.
3. McCain did not say anything new and infact sprouted out the same BS about Obama that has already been fact checked and proven wrong.
This was a loss for McCain and a slight win for Obama. McCain needed to deliver a game-changer performance to help him and he did not.
Unless some major happenes McCain is done for.
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