# 12.80's **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [August 9, 2006, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/12-80s/184143 "2006-08-09T17:40:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 68
**Author:** ![Quik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/quik/32/5979_2.png) [@Quik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Quik)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/12-80s/184143/68 "2006-08-16T14:10:30Z")
> [@Post pics of your ride in snowy situations](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/post-pics-of-your-ride-in-snowy-situations/23507/51): > > TNT or not,i don,t see u gaining a second off ur time with just a tune there boy wonder:zzz: lets think dumbass… with a A/F of 11.8 on average and you lean it out to about 13.2 youre gaining alot possible of 50hp+/- with that much leaning. 50 hp is usually about .5 seconds give or take. now address the traction issue. with every 10th off your 60’ you gain roughtly 2/10ths off your ET. ok then add the juice. and from my experience in using N20 a 75 shot gained me rough 10mph and 1.2 seconds. also cooler air helps greatly and some tracks like ATCO are 3/10s faster then PRP is. so learn some things about tuning then try to pin point shit. my goal NA is 12.5 anything more is a bonus how about this you build somehting yourself and head to the track and well just tear into you just like you hate also --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/12-80s/184143)._