# 143 days **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 11, 2008, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552 "2008-09-11T14:21:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![04Mustang232](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/0/df788c/32.png) [@04Mustang232](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/04Mustang232)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/21 "2008-09-11T19:13:42Z")
one word; reparations. Obama is voting for them. fuck that. Just because you hate Bush, doesnt mean your automatically a democrat. Noone likes Bush. but we are fucked no matter what. He loses the election, canadians riot and burn shit in anger. He wins the election, canadians riot and burn shit in celebration. He wins and gets killed, canadians riot and burn shit in hate. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/22 "2008-09-11T19:57:22Z")
> [@Who can mount and balance my new snow tires???](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-can-mount-and-balance-my-new-snow-tires/37833/6): > > one word; reparations. Obama is voting for them. fuck that. you are a fucking retard. > [@http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/02/obama-opposes-slavery-rep\_n\_116506.html"](#): > > Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama opposes offering reparations to the descendants of slaves, putting him at odds with some black groups and leaders. > > The man with a serious chance to become the nation’s first black president argues that government should instead combat the legacy of slavery by improving schools, health care and the economy for all. > > “I have said in the past \_ and I’ll repeat again \_ that the best reparations we can provide are good schools in the inner city and jobs for people who are unemployed,” the Illinois Democrat said recently. Please research things before you believe them, you racist pile of dog shit. ---
**Author:** ![vw16vcabby](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vw16vcabby/32/5943_2.png) [@vw16vcabby](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/vw16vcabby)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/23 "2008-09-11T19:59:11Z")
i don’t think anyone is really qualified to run this cluster fuck of a country. Don’t get me wrong, i love it here. Yet no one take responsibility for their own stupidity. Burn yourself on coffee–sue. wreck your car drunk while underage–sue who served you the booze. Got your girl friend pregnant–sue Trojan for not personally wrapping your dick in the rubber… however, with that in mind, i would go for the person w/ the least exposure to the bureaucratic bullshit. Mccain has been around long enough to already be in a lot of pockets. Obama, on the other hand, being fairly new can not be as bought up. I’m sure he has been bought though. anyone who says politicians are legit is full of shit. when you get to a certain level, you have to take care of some people to get what you want/need. it is shady, but American. so if obama does get elected, i give it less than 2 years before he is assassinated. It will be a kennedy all over again. Young, not “experienced”, not the normal president (catholic/black). what everyone fails to remember, when kennedy was killed his approval rating was going into the shitter. His death actually martyred his presidency and elevated him to sainthood. had kennedy made it through his term, i wonder if he would have been viewed liked the current Bush??? keep in mind, kennedy was getting us into vietnam, had cuban missle crisis, and some other shit… ---
**Author:** ![foxrus14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@foxrus14](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/foxrus14)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/24 "2008-09-11T20:32:27Z")
> [@Team Hybrid had good luck at the Great Pumpkin](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/team-hybrid-had-good-luck-at-the-great-pumpkin/37792/7): > > Funny but, we need new blood in the white house. he can’t fuck it up more than nixon or bush. No but he will raise your taxes and take more of your earned money!! Fuck that!:rant: ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/25 "2008-09-12T05:29:14Z")
> [@Who can mount and balance my new snow tires???](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/who-can-mount-and-balance-my-new-snow-tires/37833/6): > > one word; reparations. Obama is voting for them. fuck that. Just because you hate Bush, doesnt mean your automatically a democrat. Noone likes Bush. > > but we are fucked no matter what. He loses the election, canadians riot and burn shit in anger. He wins the election, canadians riot and burn shit in celebration. He wins and gets killed, canadians riot and burn shit in hate. I pray to god that you’re on the receiving end of all of the rioting and burning. > [@Not sure how I missed this, Mercedes McLaren SLR 722 GTR](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/not-sure-how-i-missed-this-mercedes-mclaren-slr-722-gtr/37847/6): > > No but he will raise your taxes and take more of your earned money!! Fuck that!:rant: How the fuck do you know, faggot? ---
**Author:** ![77rednecktruck](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/77rednecktruck/32/5966_2.png) [@77rednecktruck](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/77rednecktruck)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/26 "2008-09-12T07:53:32Z")
> [@So who cant wait for Guitar Hero 3?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-who-cant-wait-for-guitar-hero-3/36025/78): > > How the fuck do you know, faggot? That’s just what democrats do. They take from the good citizens and give it to the lazy fucks who milk the system. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 8:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/27 "2008-09-12T08:09:27Z")
> [@slow84ta\>"fastest import in myrtle beach"](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/slow84ta-fastest-import-in-myrtle-beach/37829/17): > > That’s just what democrats do. They take from the good citizens and give it to the lazy fucks who milk the system. actually, democrats usually have to raise taxes because their republican predecessors spend trillions of dollars that aren’t there. ---
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 8:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/28 "2008-09-12T08:14:49Z")
> [@slow84ta\>"fastest import in myrtle beach"](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/slow84ta-fastest-import-in-myrtle-beach/37829/17): > > That’s just what democrats do. They take from the good citizens and give it to the lazy fucks who milk the system. as opposed to the GOP which just puts it all on the credit card. i am far from a big government guy, but 4 more years of the bush doctrine has to be avoided at all costs. ---
**Author:** ![cleanquick306](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/48db29/32.png) [@cleanquick306](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cleanquick306)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/29 "2008-09-12T08:17:58Z")
actually Obama’s proposed tax cuts beat mccains in all salary ranges under 200k/year. then he wants to raise taxes for the super wealthy where mccain gives them the biggest tax cut of all. Both are fairly close in the ranges that most people on here make (assuming most people on here make under 200k) but Obama’s is still lower. I would definately vote for mccain if I made millions each year though. ---
**Author:** ![fshowcars](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fshowcars/32/5937_2.png) [@fshowcars](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fshowcars)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/30 "2008-09-12T08:32:23Z")
> [@wtb.volks](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-volks/37779/6): > > actually Obama’s proposed tax cuts beat mccains in all salary ranges under 200k/year. then he wants to raise taxes for the super wealthy where mccain gives them the biggest tax cut of all. Both are fairly close in the ranges that most people on here make (assuming most people on here make under 200k) but Obama’s is still lower. I would definately vote for mccain if I made millions each year though. actually you are wrong… this is why politics are BS… you have such high aspirations for Obama under incorrect pretenses. I dont’ know what you consider ‘super wealthy’?? [http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candidates\_taxproposals\_tpc/index.htm?postversion=2008061111](http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candidates_taxproposals_tpc/index.htm?postversion=2008061111) this chart is correctly formatted in the link on the right: INCOME McCain lol’Bama Income Avg. tax bill Avg. tax bill Over $2.9M -$269,364 +$701,885 $603K and up -$45,361 +$115,974 $227K-$603K -$7,871 +$12 $161K-$227K -$4,380 -$2,789 $112K-$161K -$2,614 -$2,204 $66K-$112K -$1,009 -$1,290 $38K-$66K -$319 -$1,042 $19K-$38K -$113 -$892 Under $19K -$19 -$567 obama is going to give me less and give less people more and it only compounds as you go up the scale. what sucks is that so many people agree with taking away from successful capitalists… I am so against taking away from the .01% successful billionaires just because they ‘make a lot of money’… since when is that something that is bad? nothing like striving to be mediocre… ---
**Author:** ![tom\_vito](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tom_vito/32/6000_2.png) [@tom\_vito](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tom_vito)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/31 "2008-09-12T12:51:37Z")
> [@slow84ta\>"fastest import in myrtle beach"](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/slow84ta-fastest-import-in-myrtle-beach/37829/17): > > That’s just what democrats do. They take from the good citizens and give it to the lazy fucks who milk the system. Just like the retards in front of me in line at Sheetz this morning. Two dudes, niether more than 20 years old, buy about 8 backs of chips, 18 drinks, 9 beef sticks, 14 apple pies, 6 packs of gum, and 1 coffee, and pay for it all with their damn ACCESS card. The system works great. And if you agree with the system working great, GO FUCK YOURSELF!!! ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/32 "2008-09-12T13:02:04Z")
Tom, I never said the welfare system doesn’t need reform. I don’t think an Access card should pay for any processed, single serving foods. An access card should pay for produce, meat, peanut butter, and dairy. It should also not be permanent. ---
**Author:** ![cleanquick306](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/48db29/32.png) [@cleanquick306](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cleanquick306)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/33 "2008-09-12T15:08:46Z")
> [@OFFICIAL '07-'08 BUFFALO SABRES SEASON THREAD](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-07-08-buffalo-sabres-season-thread/36504/326): > > actually you are wrong… this is why politics are BS… you have such high aspirations for Obama under incorrect pretenses. I dont’ know what you consider ‘super wealthy’?? > > [How McCain and Obama will change your tax bill - Jun. 11, 2008](http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candidates_taxproposals_tpc/index.htm?postversion=2008061111) > > this chart is correctly formatted in the link on the right: > > INCOME McCain lol’Bama > Income Avg. tax bill Avg. tax bill > Over $2.9M -$269,364 +$701,885 > $603K and up -$45,361 +$115,974 > $227K-$603K -$7,871 +$12 > $161K-$227K -$4,380 -$2,789 > $112K-$161K -$2,614 -$2,204 > $66K-$112K -$1,009 -$1,290 > $38K-$66K -$319 -$1,042 > $19K-$38K -$113 -$892 > Under $19K -$19 -$567 > > obama is going to give me less and give less people more and it only compounds as you go up the scale. > > what sucks is that so many people agree with taking away from successful capitalists… I am so against taking away from the .01% successful billionaires just because they ‘make a lot of money’… since when is that something that is bad? nothing like striving to be mediocre… This is what I was talking about. Am I reading this wrong? It looks to me like this is what I was talking about except I was wrong about the income level where mccain passes obama. (112k instead of 200k) ---
**Author:** ![GC\_SRT8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@GC\_SRT8](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GC_SRT8)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 3:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/34 "2008-09-12T15:22:08Z")
I read an interesting article, in general it said . . . Bush has the lowest approval rating in history, the economy in in the worst position that it has been for most anyone living, and our national debt has exceeded all expectations. But historians agree, that many, many years from now Bush will be judged by the measures taken to keep the country safe after it’s worst terrorist attack in history. I’m in no way endorsing Bush, I just thought it was an interesting observation. Right now I am leaning towards the McCain/Palin ticket. While Obama may have original ideas, he won’t have the support to implement them. He will likely be the biggest assassination target in the history of the US presidency and his arrogance about core values of democracy and patriotism really push me away. ---
**Author:** ![SmokinDiesel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@SmokinDiesel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/SmokinDiesel)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/35 "2008-09-12T16:12:51Z")
McCain/Milf FTMFW ---
**Author:** ![flyinglow57](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/flyinglow57/32/5978_2.png) [@flyinglow57](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/flyinglow57)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/36 "2008-09-12T16:14:22Z")
drug test… then get welfare. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/37 "2008-09-12T16:50:02Z")
> [@Volvo S40 opinions](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/volvo-s40-opinions/37815/16): > > drug test… then get welfare. x1000. and random tests thereafter. ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/38 "2008-09-12T17:29:13Z")
> [@Volvo S40 opinions](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/volvo-s40-opinions/37815/16): > > drug test… then get welfare. exactly. i heard that before. and drug test everyone that renews their license :kekegay: ---
**Author:** ![Blackbelt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/blackbelt/32/5998_2.png) [@Blackbelt](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blackbelt)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/39 "2008-09-12T17:43:52Z")
I guess i will have to play something i really hate to play…the “AC”…the “age card” There are a few members of PS who are my age(or older), who have lived through what were some damn tough economic times in the late 70’s and early 80’s. Back in the mid 70’s, watergate was still pretty fresh in our minds. People were pretty cynical of the government, and especially established politicians. People were looking for a fresh face, someone who would come in and change Washington and shake things up (does this sound the least bit familiar?) Jimmy Carter was the guy. A Georgia governor. A “man of the people”. A “WAshington outsider”. JImmy was our guy, he was going to go to Washington and fix the damn mess left from that crook Nixon and the inept Ford. So, Carter won on the wave of change. Guess what? That didn’t work out so well. I know, because i lived it. Lets talk about inflation. Here are the inflation rates during the “Carter change years” 1978 7.62% 1979 11.22% 1980 13.58% 1981 10.35% Lets take a look at interest rates during the “Carter change years”. When Carter began his presidency in 1977, the prime rate was 6.5% Here is what happened during his term: 1977-10-24 7.75 1978-01-10 8.00 1978-05-05 8.25 1978-05-26 8.50 1978-06-16 8.75 1978-06-30 9.00 1978-09-01 9.25 1978-09-15 9.50 1978-09-28 9.75 1978-10-13 10.00 1978-10-27 10.25 1978-11-01 10.50 1978-11-06 10.75 1978-11-17 11.00 1978-11-24 11.50 1978-12-26 11.75 1979-06-19 11.50 1979-07-27 11.75 1979-08-16 12.00 1979-08-28 12.25 1979-09-07 12.75 1979-09-14 13.00 1979-09-20 13.25 1979-09-28 13.50 1979-10-09 14.50 1979-10-24 15.00 1979-11-01 15.25 1979-11-09 15.50 1979-11-16 15.75 1979-11-30 15.50 1979-12-07 15.25 1980-02-19 15.75 1980-02-22 16.50 1980-02-29 16.75 1980-03-04 17.25 1980-03-07 17.75 1980-03-14 18.50 1980-03-19 19.00 1980-03-28 19.50 1980-04-02 20.00 1980-04-18 19.50 1980-05-01 18.50 1980-05-07 17.50 1980-05-16 16.50 1980-05-23 14.50 1980-05-28 14.00 1980-06-06 13.00 1980-06-13 12.50 1980-06-17 12.00 1980-07-07 11.50 1980-07-23 11.00 1980-08-22 11.25 1980-08-27 11.50 1980-09-08 12.00 1980-09-12 12.25 1980-09-19 12.50 1980-09-26 13.00 1980-10-01 13.50 1980-10-17 14.00 1980-10-29 14.50 1980-11-06 15.50 1980-11-17 16.25 1980-11-21 17.00 1980-11-26 17.75 1980-12-02 18.50 1980-12-05 19.00 1980-12-10 20.00 1980-12-16 21.00 1980-12-19 21.50 1981-01-02 20.50 1981-01-09 20.00 I can testify to what these interest rates can do to mortgages, because my wife and i bought our first house in 1980, and we got a 16.5% mortgage. If you want an idea what kind of payment that means, pull up an online mortgage calculater and see what YOUR mortgage payment would be at 16.5%. What really scares me is that i see so many parallels between Obama and Carter, and having had to endure the Carter years, well, it was not fun. The last time this country decided to hire an “agent of change”, it didn’t work out so well. I am no fan of McCain, but i am really afraid of the alternative. I do not want to live through another 4 years like i lived through between 1977-1981. It saddens me to think that these 2 are the best we can do, and this time around it truly is voting for the lesser of 2 evils. But i am convinced that an Obama administration will really be a disaster. Dave ---
**Author:** ![Shaggy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shaggy/32/5945_2.png) [@Shaggy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shaggy)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/40 "2008-09-12T17:50:21Z")
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