# 143 days **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [September 11, 2008, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552 "2008-09-11T14:21:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 83
**Author:** ![Darkstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@Darkstar](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Darkstar)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552/83 "2008-09-15T08:38:02Z")
> [@2008 Ferrari FXX Evoluzione](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2008-ferrari-fxx-evoluzione/37902/3): > > I also love all the welfare arguments made by people who have probably never known anyone receiving it. > > I have a relative who, in her early forties, got out of an abusive marriage with nothing but a suitcase and no skills to speak of (unless housefrau is a marketable skill). She used the welfare system while training to be a bus driver, then used food stamps to supplement her income while schooling to be an RN. She’s now been an RN for nearly twenty years. That is why I will always support such programs. If there’s exploitation in the system, you stop the exploitation; You don’t toss the whole thing out. And I’m sure in the 20 years she’s been in nursing that she’s paid back more into the welfare program than she ever took out of it. Which shows that the system CAN work. But the way it is now is just BEGGING for abuse. So like I said, if we can change the value of an hour worked, make good and damn sure that the people are getting “handouts” are working for them and working to get OFF of them, then things will start to turn around very quickly. And this is coming from a person that owns a company and does/will have a/many employees to pay. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/143-days/199552)._