# 150+ MPH **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [June 25, 2006, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/150-mph/13797 "2006-06-25T20:10:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![rskrause](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rskrause/32/7367_2.png) [@rskrause](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/rskrause)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 4:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/150-mph/13797/121 "2006-07-01T04:55:02Z")
> [@blk\_hatch](#): > > is anyone else a little shocked that a VW hippie van has a coeffiecient of drag of .38??? i’d say that’s pretty damn good for a super tall flat faced brick… > > here’s some food for thought a C5 z06 has a cd of .29 and that is stellar, lower than some of the high priced exotics. > > as far as the sunroof thing is going, i understand the sho owners point of view he’s saying when you only lift the rear of the sun roof (“vent”) , creating a “mini wing” on the roof. but at the same time, i think that for any amount of downforce it could create, it would be negated by the extra drag, and as for being able to “feel” the downforce or the car squatting it could also just be the extra drag slowing you down and yes slightly pushing the car down at the same time. But drag is a product of the CD x frontal area. I bet the frontal area of the VW is at least three times that of the C6. So, in that case the VW would have ~400% more drag than the C6. ---
**Author:** ![Freek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freek/32/7357_2.png) [@Freek](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Freek)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/150-mph/13797/122 "2006-07-01T07:53:32Z")
> More examples of **ACd** ft²: [[1]](http://www.mayfco.com/tbls.htm) > - 5.10 - 1999 [Honda Insight](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Insight) > - 5.71 - 1990 [Honda CR-X Si](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CRX#CR-X_Si_.28USDM.29) > - 5.76 - 1968 [Toyota 2000GT](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_2000GT) > - 5.80 - 1986 [Toyota MR2](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_MR2) > - 5.81 - 1989 [Mitsubishi Eclipse](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Eclipse) GSX > - 5.88 - 1990 [Nissan 240SX](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_240SX) > - 5.92 - 1994 [Porsche 911](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_911) Speedster > - 5.95 - 1990 [Mazda RX7](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RX-7) > - 6.00 - 1970 [Lamborghini Miura](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_Miura) > - 6.13 - 1993 [Acura NSX](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acura_NSX) > - 6.17 - 1995 [Lamborghini Diablo](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_Diablo) > - 6.27 - 1986 [Porsche 911](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_911) Carrera > - 6.27 - 1992 [Chevrolet Corvette](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Corvette) > - 6.54 - 1991 [Saturn Sports Coupe](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_SC) > - 6.40 - 1990 [Lotus Esprit](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Cars) > - 6.57 - 1985 [Chevrolet Corvette](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Corvette) > - 6.77 - 1995 [BMW M3](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_M3) > - 6.79 - 1993 [Toyota Corolla](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Corolla) DX > - 6.81 - 1991 [Subaru Legacy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Legacy) > - 6.90 - 1993 [Saturn Wagon](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_L-series) > - 6.93 - 1982 [Delorean](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delorean) > - 6.96 - 1988 [Porsche 944](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_944) S > - 6.96 - 1995 [Chevy Lumina](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Lumina) LS > - 7.02 - 1992 [BMW 325I](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_3_series) > - 7.04 - 1991 [Honda Civic](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Civic) EX > - 7.10 - 1995 [Saab 900](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_900) > - 7.14 - 1995 [Subaru Legacy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Legacy) L > - 7.34 - 2001 [Honda Civic](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Civic) > - 7.39 - 1994 [Honda Accord](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Accord) EX > - 7.48 - 1993 [Camaro Z28](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camaro_Z28) > - 7.57 - 1992 [Toyota Camry](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Camry) > - 7.69 - 1994 [Chrysler LHS](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_LHS) > - 7.72 - 1993 [Subaru Impreza](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Impreza) > - 8.70 - 1990 [Volvo 740](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_740) Turbo > - 8.70 - 1992 [Ford Crown Victoria](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Crown_Victoria) > - 8.71 - 1991 [Buick LeSabre](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_LeSabre) Limited > - 9.54 - 1992 [Chevy Caprice](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevy_Caprice) Wagon > - 10.7 - 1992 [Chevy Blazer](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevy_K5_Blazer) > - 11.7 - 1993 [Jeep Grand Cherokee](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep_Grand_Cherokee) > - 16.8 - 2006 [Hummer H3](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummer_H3) > - 17.4 - 1995 [Land Rover Discovery](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Discovery) > - 26.3 - 2003 [Hummer H2](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummer_H2) copied from - [Drag coefficient - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_coefficient) just to show you how much frontal surface area matters … along with overall size [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/150-mph/13797.md?page=6)