# 16-0 or 15-1
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938
**Category:** NYSpeed Off Topic
**Created:** [December 29, 2007, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938 "2007-12-29T11:42:21Z")
**Posts on this page:** 18
**Page:** 3
### Author:  [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2007, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/41 "2007-12-29T20:51:03Z")
are you originally from boston or just dig their sports teams? sox i can understand but i just have a hard time with seeing how anyone can latch on to such an unlikeable bunch without something like that behind it
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2007, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/42 "2007-12-29T20:51:16Z")
Didn’t click the vid.
So, in 10 yrs when another team goes undefeated, they will be better the the 07 pats? Beause I’m sure the league will continue to improve gameplay.
Thats akin to saying the Apollo space program wasn’t shit, because NASA today has come along way. Nah…
I stand by my point… and on the NFL network post game show, Bob Kraft agrees that without a title “this is for naught”. lol
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2007, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/43 "2007-12-29T20:52:02Z")
> [@Joe](#):
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> .
You just lost all credibility in sports convo for attempting to quote the FUCKING ONION.
:ban:
Thats enough of NYSpeed for one night. oi
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### Author:  [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2007, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/44 "2007-12-29T20:54:12Z")
i obviously wasnt serious 😛 but i really have become more of a casual fan this year, i watch a game til its over for entertainment and then really don’t think about it til the next one. all the analysis and 24/7 talking heads can really make one lose interest. on that note, its just about time to head to the bar
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### Author:  [@AFhockey31](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/AFhockey31)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2007, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/45 "2007-12-29T20:57:45Z")
ugh… HORRIBLE clock mgt by the giants… its like the last 7 minutes, they completely gave up
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### Author:  [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2007, 7:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/46 "2007-12-30T07:25:50Z")
> [@Joe](#):
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> are you originally from boston or just dig their sports teams? sox i can understand but i just have a hard time with seeing how anyone can latch on to such an unlikeable bunch without something like that behind it
No, I started liking them after they won 2 SBs. I was on the 'wagon for the third though.
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### Author:  [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2007, 7:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/47 "2007-12-30T07:33:02Z")
Walter, your summary of the game really blows. Offense was split evenly up till the half. Both QBs had nearly identical yardage, pats maybe had a few more yards on the ground. By default I think that would mean that the giants defense really came through to hold the pats to FGs and stop 3rd down conversions. Pats shut down the giants in the 3rd and most of the 4th. Pass interference penalty on the giants pretty much handed them a TD on a silver platter there in the second half. Regardless, Giants did a great job on defense imo.
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### Author:  [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2007, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/48 "2007-12-30T07:35:37Z")
> [@walter](#):
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> IMO, oging 16-0 in today’s league is far more impressive than going 14-0 + the SB in 1972. :shrug:
So you would agree Rice doing it in less games than Moss is far more impressive?
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### Author:  [@The\_Russian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/The_Russian)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2007, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/49 "2007-12-30T08:47:14Z")
Howcome the best 2 guys pretty much to have played are named after plants?
Rice. Moss. im waiting for Grass to start playing
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### Author:  [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2007, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/50 "2007-12-30T09:36:35Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#):
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> Walter, here is my summary of the game and it really blows. Offense was split evenly up till the half. Both QBs had nearly identical yardage, pats maybe had a few more yards on the ground. By default I think that would mean that the giants defense really came through to hold the pats to FGs and stop 3rd down conversions. Pats shut down the giants in the 3rd and most of the 4th. Pass interference penalty on the giants pretty much handed them a TD on a silver platter there in the second half. Regardless, Giants did a great job on defense imo.
fixed that for ya
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### Author:  [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2007, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/51 "2007-12-30T09:37:58Z")
> [@BigRon](#):
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> So you would agree Rice doing it in less games than Moss is far more impressive?
To some extent. I don’t know that I would say “far more”.
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### Author:  [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2007, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/52 "2007-12-30T09:39:01Z")
> [@AFhockey31](#):
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> ugh… HORRIBLE clock mgt by the giants… its like the last 7 minutes, they completely gave up
It was pretty funny, I mean, _I_ was yelling at them for that douchbaggery. However the ~1-2 minutes they could have saved wouldn’t really have helped them unless they could have recovered the onside.
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### Author:  [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2007, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/53 "2007-12-30T09:39:59Z")
> [@walter](#):
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> [http://youtube.com/watch?v=sjdR9pGbNwU](http://youtube.com/watch?v=sjdR9pGbNwU)
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> And IMO, I hardly find the '72 dolphins feat very impressive. It is much more impressive to win in todays league when they have done so much to level the playin field. It has nothing to do with the league being faster or tougher.
And for the nim-rods out there. That is comparing 12-0 regular season in '72 to 16-0 in '07 in the regular season.
:cjerk:
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### Author:  [@97Ranger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97Ranger)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2007, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/54 "2007-12-30T17:26:50Z")
how do you call a personal foul on the patriots then take it back and call one on the giants… .and the giant they call it on TOOMER wasn’t even on the field… they even showed him on the sideline
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### Author:  [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2007, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/55 "2007-12-30T17:36:28Z")
> [@97Ranger](#):
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> how do you call a personal foul on the patriots then take it back and call one on the giants… .and the giant they call it on TOOMER wasn’t even on the field… they even showed him on the sideline
Did you fucking even watch the game?
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### Author:  [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2007, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/56 "2007-12-30T17:39:12Z")
> [@97Ranger](#):
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> how do you call a personal foul on the patriots then take it back and call one on the giants… .and the giant they call it on TOOMER wasn’t even on the field… they even showed him on the sideline
> [@walter](#):
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> Did you fucking even watch the game?
lol
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### Author:  [@97Ranger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/97Ranger)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2007, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/57 "2007-12-30T17:59:04Z")
yes… toomer was on the sideline doing nothing when they called it on him… so ur telling me u can hit a guy after he is out of bounds as long as ur a patriot… but if u yell at somebody while u stand on the sideline while your a giant its against the rules?
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### Author:  [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)
#### Post date: [December 30, 2007, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-0-or-15-1/40938/58 "2007-12-30T18:41:11Z")
> [@97Ranger](#):
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> yes… toomer was on the sideline doing nothing when they called it on him… so ur telling me u can hit a guy after he is out of bounds as long as ur a patriot… but if u yell at somebody while u stand on the sideline while your a giant its against the rules?
1. the hit was clean, and in bounds.
2. refs make calls against the wrong jersy ALL THE TIME. As long as it goes against the right team, that is all that matters
3. it was CLEARLY a properly called pentalty against the giants, from the SHOVING that occured after the play, you know… when the flag was thrown?
:gay2:
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