# 16 illegal aliens sue rancher

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**Created:** [February 18, 2009, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223 "2009-02-18T07:57:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![L8APEX1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/l8apex1/32/7276_2.png) [@L8APEX1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/L8APEX1)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/1 "2009-02-18T07:57:16Z")

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> **[16 illegals sue Arizona rancher](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/09/16-illegals-sue-arizona-rancher/)**
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> An Arizona man who has waged a 10-year campaign to stop a flood of illegal immigrants from crossing his property is being sued by 16 Mexican nationals who accuse him of conspiring to violate their civil rights when he stopped them at gunpoint on his...

16 illegals sue Arizona rancher  
Claim violation of rights as they crossed his land

and lol at “hungry for buttocks”

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**Author:** ![fiend540](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bcef8e/32.png) [@fiend540](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fiend540)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 7:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/2 "2009-02-18T07:59:59Z")

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I didn’t realize illegal immigrants have the right to sue. “My dog is hungry and he’s hungry for buttocks”, sounds like a serious threat to me.

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**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/3 "2009-02-18T08:03:03Z")

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> It also said Mr. Barnett acknowledged that he had turned over 12,000 illegal immigrants to the Border Patrol since 1998.

The guy deserves a medal and a check from the federal government, and the illegals suing deserve to be shot, then deported.

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**Author:** ![Bigairskier1580](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bigairskier1580/32/7612_2.png) [@Bigairskier1580](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bigairskier1580)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/4 "2009-02-18T08:05:35Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> The guy deserves a medal and a check from the federal government, and the illegals suing deserve to be shot, then deported.

Opposite. He needs to be silenced. He’s making the Border Patrol guys look like slackers!

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**Author:** ![pirite](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pirite/32/5308_2.png) [@pirite](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/pirite)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/5 "2009-02-18T08:05:46Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> The guy deserves a medal and a check from the federal government, and the illegals suing deserve to be shot, then deported.

they should just make him an official part of the boarder patrol.  
problem solved.

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**Author:** ![Janus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@Janus](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Janus)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/6 "2009-02-18T08:10:51Z")

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> [@fiend540](#):
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> I didn’t realize illegal immigrants have the right to sue.

seriosuly though… how can they even bring suit?

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**Author:** ![dubbin91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecccb3/32.png) [@dubbin91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/dubbin91)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/7 "2009-02-18T08:13:50Z")

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> [@JayS](#):
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> The guy deserves a medal and a check from the federal government, and the illegals suing deserve to be shot, then deported.

also add the lawyers and judges allowing this case to happen.

shit…the man as 22k acres. just shoot them and start burying them.

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**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/8 "2009-02-18T08:21:07Z")

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> [@dubbin91](#):
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> also add the lawyers and judges allowing this case to happen.
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> shit…the man as 22k acres. just shoot them and start burying them.

why even bury them? there’s plenty in the desert to take care of them…

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 8:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/9 "2009-02-18T08:22:53Z")

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WOW… what a BS suit… also LOL @ puppy who wants some ass.

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**Author:** ![n20junkie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/n20junkie/32/7396_2.png) [@n20junkie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/n20junkie)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/10 "2009-02-18T08:30:01Z")

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How can prisoners at GITMO get trials in US courts for crimes comitted overseas, in a time of war, and they have never set foot on US soil.

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/11 "2009-02-18T08:32:50Z")

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They should drop the suit and force the illegals to work off a dept equal to that he had to pay in lawyers fees.

AKA they are his slaves for the rest of their lives.

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**Author:** ![boxxa](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxxa/32/5045_2.png) [@boxxa](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boxxa)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/12 "2009-02-18T09:16:23Z")

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Should have fucking shot them.

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**Author:** ![Clean\_Baldy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clean_baldy/32/7308_2.png) [@Clean\_Baldy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clean_Baldy)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 9:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/13 "2009-02-18T09:19:12Z")

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So, they decided under their own free will to cross his land illegally, and he treated them unfairly. It never would have happened if they just stayed home.

MESSAGE: Don’t do stupid shit and you won’t get held at gun point on someone elses land.

I don’t see a problem with what he did. I see a problem with the decisions of the people, which could have easily been avoided by their own doing.

This just reminds me of the McDonalds hot coffee accident which made someone rich. If you don’t want a burned crotch, don’t hold coffee between your legs. Coffee is known to be hot be everyone on the planet (labeled or not) and if you spill it on yourself, only one person is to blame… YOU.

Fucking country and the “nothing is my fault” bullshit happening today.

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/14 "2009-02-18T10:05:17Z")

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> [@Clean Baldy](#):
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> So, they decided under their own free will to cross his land illegally, and he treated them unfairly. It never would have happened if they just stayed home.
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> MESSAGE: Don’t do stupid shit and you won’t get held at gun point on someone elses land.
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> I don’t see a problem with what he did. I see a problem with the decisions of the people, which could have easily been avoided by their own doing.
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> This just reminds me of the McDonalds hot coffee accident which made someone rich. If you don’t want a burned crotch, don’t hold coffee between your legs. Coffee is known to be hot be everyone on the planet (labeled or not) and if you spill it on yourself, only one person is to blame… YOU.
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> Fucking country and the “nothing is my fault” bullshit happening today.

+1

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**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/15 "2009-02-18T10:57:09Z")

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> **[Rancher cleared in rights case](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/18/rancher-cleared-in-rights-case/)**
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> A federal jury in Tucson ruled Tuesday that an Arizona rancher did not violate the civil rights of 16 Mexican nationals he stopped after they sneaked illegally into the United States, but awarded $78,000 in actual and punitive damages on claims of...

Followup…

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**Author:** ![iwanagofast1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a9adbd/32.png) [@iwanagofast1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/iwanagofast1)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/16 "2009-02-18T12:29:18Z")

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if this happened 4 years ago, then it should have been resolved by now

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**Author:** ![upstateclipse](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/upstateclipse/32/7348_2.png) [@upstateclipse](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/upstateclipse)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/17 "2009-02-18T14:19:36Z")

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That is absolutely ridiculous that he is forced to pay- even if it is “only” 78,000. People have no right to trespass on private property and anything that happens after they do so; the owner should not be held responsible.

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/18 "2009-02-18T14:26:52Z")

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i know theyre not here legally, but they still have rights.

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**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/19 "2009-02-18T14:41:24Z")

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> [@deebo](#):
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> i know theyre not here legally, but they still have rights.

Why? I think you should be able to shoot them. Maybe getting a ticket for shooting within 500 feet of a road or structure would be issued though.

Can he then sue them back for 78,000 for trespassing damages? How far do you want the blame game to go?

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**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/16-illegal-aliens-sue-rancher/63223/20 "2009-02-18T14:45:43Z")

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idk, maybe because you cant shoot people here in america unless they are trying to kill you

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