# 1997 3000GT VR4 Project (97VR4)

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1997-3000gt-vr4-project-97vr4/235283>\
**Category:** Builds\
**Created:** [December 23, 2007, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1997-3000gt-vr4-project-97vr4/235283 "2007-12-23T20:11:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![silverandslow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@silverandslow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1997-3000gt-vr4-project-97vr4/235283/21 "2007-12-25T21:12:13Z")

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I think its funny that you need a datalogger on totally stock fueled car with adjusting easily managable boost pressure on 2 turbos that couldnt hold 10 psi to redline on a mopen motor.

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2007, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1997-3000gt-vr4-project-97vr4/235283/22 "2007-12-25T21:50:28Z")

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> [@97VR4](#):
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> Shawn: With all of this CEL and emissions crap nowadays, how do you keep your car inspected? Any advice would be welcome. :ponder

My 96 had a ECU recall that didn’t display the gutted precats CEL. I got an OBDII scanner and got the car inspected immediately after I did the drive cycles to get the necessary readiness monitors to come on. It was a fucking bitch.

> [@97VR4](#):
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> Boostin: An intercooler on my car with the OEM turbo’s is actually a downgrade if anything. I could upgrade my sidemounts but since I plan on doing a turbo upgrade in the future I don’t want to waste money on the upgraded side mounts right now when I will eventually be putting the FMIC on. I wish I could do it now though.

If you plan to do the upgraded turbos, doing the FMIC now isn’t a bad thing. It just won’t do much for you if you don’t plan to do the turbo upgrade as you are severely limited with stock turbo/fuel.

> [@silverandslow](#):
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> I think its funny that you need a datalogger on totally stock fueled car with adjusting easily managable boost pressure on 2 turbos that couldnt hold 10 psi to redline on a mopen motor.

Not sure why it’s funny? It’s a valuable tool especially for a platform that is nearly 15 years old.

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**Author:** ![silverandslow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@silverandslow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 5:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1997-3000gt-vr4-project-97vr4/235283/23 "2007-12-26T05:01:07Z")

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Its funny to get a datalogger when you should probably get some type of fuel management or else the datalogger is pretty much pointless. Unless you said that and I missed it.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1997-3000gt-vr4-project-97vr4/235283/24 "2007-12-26T06:14:39Z")

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> [@silverandslow](#):
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> Its funny to get a datalogger when you should probably get some type of fuel management or else the datalogger is pretty much pointless. Unless you said that and I missed it.

Its called knock :nod

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2007, 11:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1997-3000gt-vr4-project-97vr4/235283/25 "2007-12-26T11:07:45Z")

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> [@silverandslow](#):
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> Its funny to get a datalogger when you should probably get some type of fuel management or else the datalogger is pretty much pointless. Unless you said that and I missed it.

Pointless? It’s a small price to pay for insurance when some of these cars are over 15 years old. Leaky injectors, clogged fuel filters, etc… can cause a lean condition and stock turbo/fuel’ed cars often see knock issues from raising the stock boost from to 14-16PSI. Also, that boost is starting to approach fuel cut too. It’s important to know what’s safe and what is not.

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**Author:** ![silverandslow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@silverandslow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1997-3000gt-vr4-project-97vr4/235283/26 "2007-12-27T05:22:04Z")

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get a wideband and an emanage.

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**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 5:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1997-3000gt-vr4-project-97vr4/235283/27 "2007-12-27T05:46:54Z")

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> [@Boostin Camaro](#):
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> You ever think about putting a front mount intercooler on that?

i heard that with a twin turbo and twin intercooler setup(like mine) its more efficent to run twin sidemounts vs a larger FMIC. Is that accurate or does that just go up to like 500hp and then u need to move to a single?

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**Author:** ![votblindub](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/votblindub/32/6280_2.png) [@votblindub](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/votblindub)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 5:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1997-3000gt-vr4-project-97vr4/235283/28 "2007-12-27T05:53:27Z")

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> [@97VR4](#):
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> As far as rims are concerned, seems to be the biggy right now, I can give you guys an idea of what i’m looking for. 18’s, Hyperdark or Black in color. 5 or 6 spoke with a decent lip. The staggered rims wont hurt my AWD as long as the actual rim/tire diameter is the same front to back, width won’t hurt it, but if I had a smaller side wall in the front than in the rear, my VCU would be shot in a month. If I go with an equal width all the way around I won’t have to worry about that so we’ll see.

i got all 4 same wheels and tires. quattro doesnt like staggered wheels. i cant figure out what they did on the new RS6 avant though, the wheels are different front and back. hows _that_ work? JLine wheels are pretty nice.5RL2, 5RL3 and 6RL are pretty nice and they got a buncha finish colors you can go with. my summer 19s are gunmetal, so its pretty :ninja stealth, but now when the motor runs u hear it rather well

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**Author:** ![GranMassaX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/granmassax/32/6299_2.png) [@GranMassaX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GranMassaX)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1997-3000gt-vr4-project-97vr4/235283/29 "2007-12-27T06:03:17Z")

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> [@votblindub](#):
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> i got all 4 same wheels and tires. quattro doesnt like staggered wheels. i cant figure out what they did on the new RS6 avant though, the wheels are different front and back. hows _that_ work? JLine wheels are pretty nice.5RL2, 5RL3 and 6RL are pretty nice and they got a buncha finish colors you can go with. my summer 19s are gunmetal, so its pretty :ninja stealth, but now when the motor runs u hear it rather well

quattro should only care if the tire diameter is the same. Diff width should be fine.

edit: I can’t find anywhere that says that the rs6 has staggered wheels…

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1997-3000gt-vr4-project-97vr4/235283/30 "2007-12-27T06:45:18Z")

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> [@silverandslow](#):
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> get a wideband and an emanage.

Why? He has stock fuel. He doesn’t need E-Manage nor would he really benefit much from it.

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**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1997-3000gt-vr4-project-97vr4/235283/31 "2007-12-27T06:57:42Z")

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For right now im just getting started on this car so a wideband I can see getting but an E-manage isn’t really a requirement as far as tuning is concerened right now. I will need it though once I get a bigger fuel pump, injectors, and eventually my upgraded turbo’s. But that may or may not happen in 08 so we will see.

And well I thought about it last night that as far as my rims go I think that I am going to steer away from staggerd as the car has enough problems with understeer as it is. I am going to stay with a 18x8.5 all the way around.

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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 8:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1997-3000gt-vr4-project-97vr4/235283/32 "2007-12-27T08:51:54Z")

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> [@97VR4](#):
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> For right now im just getting started on this car so a wideband I can see getting but an E-manage isn’t really a requirement as far as tuning is concerened right now. I will need it though once I get a bigger fuel pump, injectors, and eventually my upgraded turbo’s. But that may or may not happen in 08 so we will see.
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> And well I thought about it last night that as far as my rims go I think that I am going to steer away from staggerd as the car has enough problems with understeer as it is. I am going to stay with a 18x8.5 all the way around.

Sounds like you’re on the right track. :thumb

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**Author:** ![silverandslow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@silverandslow](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/silverandslow)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1997-3000gt-vr4-project-97vr4/235283/33 "2007-12-31T05:37:54Z")

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I doubt those 2 intercoolers are more efficient than a big front mount. They prolly help spool time with shorter ic pipes and are probably fine for what you have so theres no point in changing

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