# 1998 eclipse gsx automatic upgrade path
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825
**Category:** PittSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [June 28, 2007, 12:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825 "2007-06-28T12:52:36Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 4
### Author:  [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2007, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/61 "2007-07-03T20:14:44Z")
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### Author:  [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/62 "2007-07-03T20:16:17Z")
it has a loud ticking in it that is intermittant. That wouldnt happen to have anything to do with crankwalk would it? Do injectors tick loud sometimes or a worn belt?
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### Author:  [@slowcamaro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/slowcamaro)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2007, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/63 "2007-07-03T20:32:08Z")
t70 or hybrid are the people to talk to about dsm’s
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### Author:  [@stinkbox](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/stinkbox)
#### Post date: [July 3, 2007, 8:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/64 "2007-07-03T20:43:35Z")
most dsm’s have lifter tap, but more common one 1st gens. lifters need rebuilt or you can upgrade to ones with bigger oil holes in them, i know the 2nd gen lifters are already an upgrade for 1g’s. definetly run as high of an octane as you can on any turbo’d motor, i used to sunocco 94 but now you can only get 93. look around on the dsm sites and do all the free mods first and maintanence. i forget how many miles it says r on it but make sure the timing belt is good cause they recommend changin them every 60k. ive seen many bent valves do to timing belt failures in these car.
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### Author:  [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2007, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/65 "2007-07-04T04:54:22Z")
yeah the car is right at 60k about. so the belts will all be changed. i think the dealer might have put the low octane fuel in which might have caused the ticking and CEL.
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### Author:  [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2007, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/66 "2007-07-04T07:31:49Z")
The lifters cannot be rebuilt, they can be cleaned quite easily, but to save yourself agrivation you should do a timing belt at the same time since to get to the corner 4 lifters you almost have to take the cams out.
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### Author:  [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2007, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/67 "2007-07-04T10:05:37Z")
i read that the lifter tap can be made quieter by using synthetic oil and lucas oil stabilizer. I’ll try that along with changing the belts.
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### Author:  [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2007, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/68 "2007-07-04T10:33:41Z")
wow that car is clean.
2.1l destroke FTW! no reason to go any other route.
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### Author:  [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2007, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/69 "2007-07-04T11:06:42Z")
never ever put lucas in your oil
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### Author:  [@BlueZ06](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BlueZ06)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2007, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/70 "2007-07-04T11:51:54Z")
> [@So I realize that school is out...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-i-realize-that-school-is-out/31122/18):
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> My car isnt supercharged… I have the 2.4 vvt ecotec with a garrett turbo and automatic
but has it run a mid 13?
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### Author:  [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [July 4, 2007, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/71 "2007-07-04T17:01:32Z")
> [@FS: Civic EK Hatch (56k: get DSL you cheap bastards)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-civic-ek-hatch-56k-get-dsl-you-cheap-bastards/27642/71):
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> but has it run a mid 13?
havent been to the track yet but the setup close to mine but running less boost has ran a 13.7. im hoping to hit the track on the 11th if the car is ready by then.
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### Author:  [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2007, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/72 "2007-07-05T06:01:29Z")
> [@FS: Civic EK Hatch (56k: get DSL you cheap bastards)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-civic-ek-hatch-56k-get-dsl-you-cheap-bastards/27642/67):
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> never ever put lucas in your oil
more details as to why?
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### Author:  [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2007, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/73 "2007-07-05T06:02:39Z")
> [@The infamous punch](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-infamous-punch/31049/40):
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> wow that car is clean.
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> 2.1l destroke FTW! no reason to go any other route.
what are the benefits of the 2.1 stroker? Also, by changing the crank, will that prevent crankwalk from the stock crank?
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### Author:  [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2007, 8:06am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/74 "2007-07-05T08:06:47Z")
lucas has its place IMO.
i thought the 2.1 was discussed already here? You are de-stroking a 2.4l. there is no crank walk issues with any of these motors.
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### Author:  [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2007, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/75 "2007-07-05T09:08:52Z")
Stay 2.0, there is no reason to get that involved in something.
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### Author:  [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2007, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/76 "2007-07-05T13:17:33Z")
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> lucas has its place IMO.
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> i thought the 2.1 was discussed already here? You are de-stroking a 2.4l. there is no crank walk issues with any of these motors.
thats what confuses me… it has a 2.0 so to me it seems like making it a 2.1 would be stroking it. if it already had a 2.4 then a 2.1 would be destroking it.
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### Author:  [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2007, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/77 "2007-07-05T13:25:52Z")
so lucas or no for the lifter tap?
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### Author:  [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2007, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/78 "2007-07-05T13:38:07Z")
lucas no for anything look up the lucasoil test and how bad it foams.
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### Author:  [@ssdragon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ssdragon)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2007, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/79 "2007-07-05T13:53:07Z")
would any additive be reccamended to quiet the lifter tap? on the dsm forums they said lucas.
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### Author:  [@fmfkid250](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fmfkid250)
#### Post date: [July 5, 2007, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1998-eclipse-gsx-automatic-upgrade-path/190825/80 "2007-07-05T13:59:31Z")
lucas sucks is causes air to get into the oil boom
Take them out and clean them
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