# 1STGEN's scirocco **URL:** \ **Category:** Builds\ **Created:** [February 17, 2009, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1stgens-scirocco/242194 "2009-02-17T10:09:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![1stgen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1stgen/32/6288_2.png) [@1stgen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1stgen)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1stgens-scirocco/242194/121 "2010-02-04T12:31:24Z")
> [@Layzie \> Big B](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-big-b/29056/4): > > +rep :rofl > > i \*\*\*\*\*\*-rigged up some of those cable clevis’ on my ebrake cable and…1 broke and the other 2 slipped. :Idiots Clearly they need to come with instructions then… ---
**Author:** ![1stgen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1stgen/32/6288_2.png) [@1stgen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1stgen)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1stgens-scirocco/242194/122 "2010-02-04T12:32:33Z")
> [@Layzie \> Big B](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-big-b/29056/7): > > 1stgen is above advice, comments, and discussion. How dare you express your concern?! Thats funny Jesse…since I’ve said the same about you before…LOL ---
**Author:** ![GATVILLE](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/gatville/32/6362_2.png) [@GATVILLE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/GATVILLE)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1stgens-scirocco/242194/123 "2010-02-04T12:33:37Z")
> [@mindless \> freek \>/= turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/mindless-freek-turbociv/28998/23): > > Clearly they need to come with instructions then… Im just saying theyre dumpy. On the other hand i’ve used large ones to clamp guy wire cables that hold up baffles at the ANG, which weigh several tons… ---
**Author:** ![1stgen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1stgen/32/6288_2.png) [@1stgen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1stgen)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1stgens-scirocco/242194/124 "2010-02-04T12:35:12Z")
> [@FS: 2003 toyota tundra (silly noob didnt add FS)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2003-toyota-tundra-silly-noob-didnt-add-fs/28925/23): > > Im just saying theyre dumpy. On the other hand i’ve used large ones to clamp guy wire cables that hold up baffles at the ANG, which weigh several tons… Exactly my point…those are U.S. made clevises and are doubled up on the cable side of the clamp…and have never come apart. So a little baffled by the stupid comments… ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1stgens-scirocco/242194/125 "2010-02-04T12:41:05Z")
> [@Layzie \> Big B](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-big-b/29056/5): > > Again…you simply missed the point…I could careless about your opinion on my clevises. I never claimed to be the first to limit suspension travel. Merely stating that anything heavier would be retarded…like yourself. Way to get your panties in a bunch though. Thanks fo the edutainment of how ridiculous you are. Keep on hopping hoser Man you are really hurting my feelings with your awesome comebacks! Your clevices are so awesome, what’s next? You gonna remove the top 2 tranny bolts? Bet you taught him that shit! ITS LIGHTER SO IT MAKES WAYNE RETARDED!!! :retardclap:retardclap:retardclap:retardclap and ridiculous for suggesting a different way to do stuff! OMG! ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1stgens-scirocco/242194/126 "2010-02-04T12:41:06Z")
I always thought the spring should be preloaded though, not loose when under no load. ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1stgens-scirocco/242194/127 "2010-02-04T12:44:11Z")
> [@Big B vs rrsti](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/big-b-vs-rrsti/28977/24): > > I always thought the spring should be preloaded though, not loose when under no load. clearly, if 1stgen didn’t do it, it’s wrong. ---
**Author:** ![1stgen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1stgen/32/6288_2.png) [@1stgen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1stgen)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1stgens-scirocco/242194/128 "2010-02-04T12:49:23Z")
> [@Suggestions for my "expired teen pop" mix](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/suggestions-for-my-expired-teen-pop-mix/29004/51): > > clearly, if 1stgen didn’t do it, it’s wrong. Agian clearly your ego has been ruffled…get a life. ??? dude you’re fuct up…first you say the clamps are stoopid…then you’re suggesting putting a 5lb chain in place of a cable that is less than a pound, to do the same fucking job that the piece of cable can do. Do you need to simply over engineer something because you can? Thats a waste of time, resources and yes weight. Sorry but your an idiot…if you can’t see how stupid your point is then you obviously need to take a xanax or some shit. …ninetytwo the spring never really leaves the perch unless the car is airborne…the cables are strictly for two places on two different tracks. When the car comes back down, the spring re-seats itself in the perch because it has nowhere to go. ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1stgens-scirocco/242194/129 "2010-02-04T12:53:51Z")
So if I want my car lower right now, it will loosen the spring under no load. But if I install a cable it will be ok? What happens if the spring doesn’t seat correctly when the wheel hits pavement again? I’m just curious since my car 3 wheels often. ---
**Author:** ![1stgen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1stgen/32/6288_2.png) [@1stgen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1stgen)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1stgens-scirocco/242194/130 "2010-02-04T12:57:03Z")
> [@5/20 Nyspeed BBQ @ Chestnut Ridge-PRE MEET @ MY HOUSE!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5-20-nyspeed-bbq-chestnut-ridge-pre-meet-my-house/28937/37): > > So if I want my car lower right now, it will loosen the spring under no load. But if I install a cable it will be ok? What happens if the spring doesn’t seat correctly when the wheel hits pavement again? I’m just curious since my car 3 wheels often. The shorter the spring the easier it will be to unseat…the 2" diameter 8" free length springs reseat easy because of the narrow diameter of the spring and the fact they are flat at the bottom. If you are using lowering springs or cut stock springs they may not re-seat due to the nature of a stock spring. ---
**Author:** ![ninety1two40](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ninety1two40/32/6332_2.png) [@ninety1two40](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ninety1two40)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1stgens-scirocco/242194/131 "2010-02-04T13:08:26Z")
I’ll have to look at my spring size, they are aftermarket coilovers, Stance GR+. ---
**Author:** ![Wayne64SS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wayne64ss/32/6365_2.png) [@Wayne64SS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wayne64SS)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1stgens-scirocco/242194/132 "2010-02-04T14:32:20Z")
> [@How do I protect my wifi?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/how-do-i-protect-my-wifi/29055/2): > > ok clearly you are a little clueless. > You can clearly see in the picture that at full droop the cables are nowhere near the tire. And that under full compression the cable and clevises pull themselves away from the tire…due to the position of the mount and length of the cable. No offense but you dont drive my car…nor have spent the R&D and track time for the trial and error to make the car stop breaking axles. Which it doesn’t do anymore because of the time I took to set up the cables. Which…BTW dont rattle, clank, slap into my shock housing, or are bulky, heavy and fucking stoopid. Now do you see why I dont want to bother explaning shit…I shouldn’t have to because it should be either clear to you or…??? Maybe not and you DO need it explained to you. > [@Layzie \> Big B](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/layzie-big-b/29056/5): > > Again…you simply missed the point…I could careless about your opinion on my clevises. I never claimed to be the first to limit suspension travel. Merely stating that anything heavier would be retarded…like yourself. Way to get your panties in a bunch though. Thanks fo the edutainment of how ridiculous you are. Keep on hopping hoser > [@5/20 Nyspeed BBQ @ Chestnut Ridge-PRE MEET @ MY HOUSE!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/5-20-nyspeed-bbq-chestnut-ridge-pre-meet-my-house/28937/36): > > Agian clearly your ego has been ruffled…get a life. > > ??? dude you’re fuct up…first you say the clamps are stoopid…then you’re suggesting putting a 5lb chain in place of a cable that is less than a pound, to do the same fucking job that the piece of cable can do. Do you need to simply over engineer something because you can? Thats a waste of time, resources and yes weight. Sorry but your an idiot…if you can’t see how stupid your point is then you obviously need to take a xanax or some shit. Dude … re-read these posts and re-read my original one. I merely made a suggestion to you and posted an example of ANOTHER way to do it. I didn’t say mine was correct, i asked about the clamps. i must’ve offended you or something in the beginning, because none of the above was called for. I’m not the one with the hurt ego, I didn’t get all butt-hurt, just merely responded when provoked. ---
**Author:** ![1320-20V](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1320-20v/32/6474_2.png) [@1320-20V](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1320-20V)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1stgens-scirocco/242194/133 "2010-02-04T20:44:28Z")
Dear Wayne: You are wasting your breath. However, in a 64’ hopper application the chain is limiting suspension travel against a a spring with an incredibly high spring rate. Also that spring is still compressed and under significant load at maximum droop. If you notice in the picture the top of Tom’s spring is out of the pocket entirely, and therefore the cable is not fighting the spring force at all, it is merely holding the weight of the suspension, wheel and tire. The purpose of the cable is to limit suspension travel because tom is using a damper that has significantly more stroke than the stock setup. Without the cable the axle hits the frame, and the CV joint gets pulled out. ---
**Author:** ![1stgen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/1stgen/32/6288_2.png) [@1stgen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/1stgen)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1stgens-scirocco/242194/134 "2010-02-05T05:37:34Z")
Wayne, see above… [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1stgens-scirocco/242194.md?page=6)