# 1STGEN's scirocco

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**Category:** Builds\
**Created:** [February 17, 2009, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1stgens-scirocco/242194 "2009-02-17T10:09:48Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 6:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/1stgens-scirocco/242194/45 "2009-03-31T18:08:22Z")

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> [@Freezing Falls](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/freezing-falls/16461/21):
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> Yeah that was our first event there, kinda small but it’s a spot. I was scrubbing in my new hoosiers that day…2nd fastest time of the day…Andy beat me by .001

Looking good tom.

Is that pic with the ball joint spacers installed or no? I was thinking it would be lower.

You going to paint mars red over the black?

About the suspension limiting straps…

When the spring leaves the seat, the force on the tire is zero. Which means the tire is doing nothing. The straps will not change this.

However, we could pre-load the springs at a given ride height, resulting in a higher initial stiffness with the same rate. This would appear to make the car turn in harder, and have loss total roll, which may keep more tire on the ground when cornering.

We can discuss this at length sometime. You might want to ask someone with extensive race car setup experience for good pre load values for a strap limited suspension system.

I think a bit of initial pre load would make a very fun car for you, but the transitions will be faster. I don’t know if the car would become unsettled in a highly dynamic bus stop for example.

Adam? Morgan?

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