# 2.3 to 5.0 swap

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [July 10, 2006, 7:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2-3-to-5-0-swap/14349 "2006-07-10T07:45:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![focusinprogress](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/focusinprogress/32/7227_2.png) [@focusinprogress](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/focusinprogress)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2006, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2-3-to-5-0-swap/14349/20 "2006-07-10T15:13:10Z")

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> [@Nikuk](#):
>
> Real quick:
> 
> what do You want out of the car?
> 
> 2.3T foxes run low 12’s on stock longblock, stock turbo, and ~$1k in mods. ALL DAY. Add in a $400 Holset turbo & a 75 wet shot and You run mid 11’s. ALL DAY. Besides, turbo 5spd cars are fun to drive. Oh, BTW, I average 20-22mpg.
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> It will take you LESS THEN 6 HOURS to do a full swap and streetable. Ask PsychoPJV, he’s seen me swap a 23T a few times now.
> 
> Per [car-parts.com](http://car-parts.com) there are 6 turbo motors within ~100 miles. expect to pay $300-500 for a longblock. Turbomotors are OEM equipped with forged rod & piston as well as hardened valves.
> 
> If You can’t or dont want to get a turbo motor, You _can_ convert an NA block. _Not really advisable_ for cost reasons. But, You’ll need these turbo motor parts anyhow:  
> Turbo rotating assembly (rod & piston really) ($30-75)  
> Head ($70 - 150)  
> Exhaust manifold & turbo ($50 - $300)  
> 30 - 35lb injectors ($20 - 40 for a set).  
> Oil feed block & line ($20-50)  
> Oil return line from turbo to block ($20-50)  
> You need to TAP an oil return into the pan ($5 - 50)  
> ECU ($20-100)  
> Vane Air Meter ($20-100)
> 
> It’s seriously easier & better to just swap a full motor for $300. I bought my 23T donor for $300 motor, ecu, and all. Dont be scared of the ECU swap, it is LITERALLY 5 WIRES to change/splice/pin.
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> No need to replace a wiring harness, no need to change motor mounts, tranny xmembers, fuel lines, and all the other BS associated with 5.0 swaps. Don’t get me wrong, 5.0’s a are sexy and fun. But a 2.3 motor is literally stronger (iron content & casting) and easier to maintain. Parts are everywhere.
> 
> Oh, and as far as not having torque… LOL JnJ.
> 
> A couple of real quick examples:  
> A STOCK 220,000 mile shortblock, stock head, with bolt-on header, 3" exh, fmic, holset, and ECU tune: [http://www.stinger-performance.com/bolton.html](http://www.stinger-performance.com/bolton.html) running [/color]^^ This project “bolt-on” was JUST thrown together for the WFC champsionships a few weeks ago. Not bad for a VERY mildly modded fox chassis and drop in 4cyl swap.[/size][/font][/b]  
> **a few vid’s [http://www.stinger-performance.com/videos.html](http://www.stinger-performance.com/videos.html)**
> 
> there are quite a few 10sec 23Ts and a scant few 9 second guys too. It’s VERY easy to run low 12’s in a 2.3T fox.
> 
> After all of that being said, if You want to go 5.0, get in touch with BDR5OH.

^^knew you would come through with teh nowledg

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