# 2004 Dodge Neon SRT-4

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**Created:** [August 29, 2008, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621 "2008-08-29T20:49:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/761 "2010-11-25T07:40:51Z")

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Jim you should just dump this car in the Hudson and start fresh :hug

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**Author:** ![JiM\_P\_2001](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim_p_2001/32/6364_2.png) [@JiM\_P\_2001](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JiM_P_2001)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/762 "2010-11-27T18:22:04Z")

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I need to decide if I am going to jump on the E85 bandwagon now…

1100cc or 2150cc injectors??? FML…

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**Author:** ![freakLS7](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freakls7/32/6298_2.png) [@freakLS7](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/freakLS7)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/763 "2010-11-27T18:22:59Z")

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DO ETTTT!!!

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**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/764 "2010-11-27T18:41:22Z")

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e85 mo fucka

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**Author:** ![JiM\_P\_2001](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim_p_2001/32/6364_2.png) [@JiM\_P\_2001](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JiM_P_2001)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/765 "2010-11-27T18:51:40Z")

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I’m torn on the whole E85 thing… I could easily buy an external pump and sump the tank, but I’m not sure if I would really run E85 in the car.

_E85:  
The good:_  
The power is there whenever I want it. Smash the gas and go.  
  
_The bad:_  
Driving out of the way to get to E85 stations.  
7-10mpg and having a 12 gallon tank chugs horse cock.  
More money to upgrade fuel system.

_Pump/Race: The good:_ Get gas anywhere. 27mpg hwy. Car will still beat most of the shit I run into on the street. Leaded fuel smells delicious.

_The bad:_  
$9/gal when I want to go fast.  
I want to go fast a lot. (1/3 tanks I fill are leaded 112)

I guess what it comes down to is…

Is it worth it to spend more money on the fuel system, and pissing myself off over finding E85, just to be able to have a few more hp’s in the street?

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**Author:** ![freakLS7](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/freakls7/32/6298_2.png) [@freakLS7](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/freakLS7)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/766 "2010-11-27T18:58:04Z")

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cant you run 2 tunes? pump and e85?

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**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/767 "2010-11-27T18:58:39Z")

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12 gallon tank? Get a 93 tune and an e85 tune, seems to be the best of all of the worlds (power, convenience, fuel economy). Seems like the biggest disadvantage would be the upfront $$ but after that I think the choice is clear.

I have a 10.8 gallon tank so I’d be in the same boat as you if I ever dump $$ into the motor (e85 all the time is out of the question).

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**Author:** ![DeathbyRT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deathbyrt/32/6648_2.png) [@DeathbyRT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeathbyRT)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/768 "2010-11-27T19:00:45Z")

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I got about 18 mpg on E85 around town and highway as long as i was decent to her. 16 gallons lasted me 350+ miles. You shouldnt need to do the lines from the tank or anything really, i didnt have to and we have the same stuff pretty much. Also, do you use the diablo predator for your tuning?

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**Author:** ![crazybrew609](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crazybrew609/32/6319_2.png) [@crazybrew609](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crazybrew609)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/769 "2010-11-27T19:01:37Z")

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easy solution, have mikey fill your propane tank for the apartment with c16 for the summer so you can fill up at the house.

1.emtpy propane tank at apartment  
2.have miky fill it with c16 for the summer  
3.fill your car with c16 all the time  
4.???  
5. profit!

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**Author:** ![JiM\_P\_2001](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim_p_2001/32/6364_2.png) [@JiM\_P\_2001](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JiM_P_2001)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/770 "2010-11-27T19:50:50Z")

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> [@Snowmobile guys.....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowmobile-guys/37526/26):
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> cant you run 2 tunes? pump and e85?

> [@callout newman 240](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/callout-newman-240/37531/36):
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> 12 gallon tank? Get a 93 tune and an e85 tune, seems to be the best of all of the worlds (power, convenience, fuel economy). Seems like the biggest disadvantage would be the upfront $$ but after that I think the choice is clear.
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> I have a 10.8 gallon tank so I’d be in the same boat as you if I ever dump $$ into the motor (e85 all the time is out of the question).

I can… but at that point why not do a pump and race gas tune? C16 is a much higher octane than E85, that means moar powah!

> [@DeathbyRT"](#):
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> I got about 18 mpg on E85 around town and highway as long as i was decent to her. 16 gallons lasted me 350+ miles. You shouldnt need to do the lines from the tank or anything really, i didnt have to and we have the same stuff pretty much. Also, do you use the diablo predator for your tuning?

I cant baby around in my car like a grandpa. I don’t drive it much, but when I do, I put the hammer down. I get about 14 city / 27 highway on pump. I have to do a pump that will move more volume, -8 Feed, -6 Return, new FPR, and fuel rail. Current fuel system with bigger injectors will support 600whp. If I run E85 with my current fueling, I will make less power than I can on pump.

> [@need an engineer's opinion](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/need-an-engineers-opinion/37345/17):
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> easy solution, have mikey fill your propane tank for the apartment with c16 for the summer so you can fill up at the house.
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> 1.emtpy propane tank at apartment  
> 2.have miky fill it with c16 for the summer  
> 3.fill your car with c16 all the time  
> 4.???  
> 5. profit!

Yes.

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**Author:** ![DeathbyRT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deathbyrt/32/6648_2.png) [@DeathbyRT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeathbyRT)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/771 "2010-11-27T20:00:04Z")

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Fair enough. Your diablo and hold multiple tunes. Upgrade fuel system, save tunes fot E85,93 and c16. Can change em whenever you want, thats whay i do.

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**Author:** ![JiM\_P\_2001](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim_p_2001/32/6364_2.png) [@JiM\_P\_2001](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JiM_P_2001)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 5:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/772 "2010-11-28T05:59:49Z")

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> [@Home Audio Question...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/home-audio-question/37450/16):
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> Fair enough. Your diablo and hold multiple tunes. Upgrade fuel system, save tunes fot E85,93 and c16. Can change em whenever you want, thats whay i do.

Yes, but will upgrading the fuel system be worth it just to be _capable_ of running E85? That’s really what I’m hung up on…

Injectors: $200 more than ones I can use for pump  
Fuel rail: $200  
Sump: $200  
Pump: $300  
FPR: $200  
Misc lines and fittings: $200

Figure an extra $12-1500 to run a fuel that I’m not too sure if I will use often… If E85 was at a majority of gas stations, I would do it in a heartbeat.

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**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 6:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/773 "2010-11-28T06:11:19Z")

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Hey Jim here is a list of E85 stations starting in range from Clifton Park. (there are a few others also but aren’t open to the public they are for govt/official use only.

Less than 1 mile   
Cumberland Farms\Gulf   
Route 146 & Vischers Ferry Road   
Clifton Park, NY 12065   
View Map  
518-383-9957

About 8 mi.   
Airport Mobil   
1114 Troy Schenectady Road   
Latham, NY 12110   
View Map  
518-783-6254

About 8 mi.   
Sunoco   
245 Saratoga Road (Route 50)   
Glenville, NY 12302   
View Map  
518-399-1811

About 10 mi.   
Mobil   
1351 Central Avenue   
Albany, NY 12205   
View Map  
518-438-8053

About 10 mi.   
Village Mobil, Inc.   
88 Wolf Road   
Albany, NY 12205   
View Map  
518-869-5354

About 11 mi.   
Cumberland Farms\Gulf   
511 Duanesburg Road   
Rotterdam, NY 12306   
View Map  
518-356-5824

About 12 mi.   
Runway Express (Route 50)   
1402 Saratoga Road   
Ballston Spa, NY 12020   
View Map  
518-885-4669

About 12 mi.   
Campus Mobil   
1181 Western Ave.   
Albany, NY 12203   
View Map  
518-454-0950

About 16 mi.   
Saratoga General Store-Mobil On the Run   
177 South Broadway   
Saratoga Springs, NY 12866   
View Map  
518-584-4913

About 18 mi.   
Glenmont Mobil   
415 Route 9W   
Glenmont, NY 12077   
View Map  
518-445-2737

About 18 mi.   
Cumberland Farms\Gulf   
430 Route 9 West   
Glenmont, NY 12077   
View Map  
518-432-9154

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**Author:** ![JiM\_P\_2001](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jim_p_2001/32/6364_2.png) [@JiM\_P\_2001](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JiM_P_2001)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/774 "2010-11-28T06:20:52Z")

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The closest E85 station is about a 15 minute drive, it’s by northern lights.

Let’s say I want to go to elliots house and need gas. My 15 minute drive there just became 45 minutes because I had to drive 15 minutes in the complete opposite direction to get gas. Now factor in between all that driving I just burned 1/3 tank of gas just to fill my tank. I think shit like that will piss me off every time it happens…

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**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/775 "2010-11-28T06:26:27Z")

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Can you get a 55 gallon drum to keep in your garage?

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 7:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/776 "2010-11-28T07:15:32Z")

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> [@SOLD](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sold/37500/13):
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> Can you get a 55 gallon drum to keep in your garage?

E85 does not keep well for very long.

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/777 "2010-11-28T07:17:08Z")

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Jim,

I asssume they will keep popping up E85 stations, eventually one will hit you closer.

Closest for me is like Wolf Road, so I feel your pain.

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**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/778 "2010-11-28T08:23:20Z")

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I would just have a tune for both. You can run 93 or e85. As long as you have a programmer just switch tunes and put 10 dollars worth of 93 to get where you want to go

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**Author:** ![DeathbyRT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deathbyrt/32/6648_2.png) [@DeathbyRT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeathbyRT)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/779 "2010-11-28T08:41:45Z")

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Bingo ^

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2010, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2004-dodge-neon-srt-4/238621/780 "2010-11-28T08:56:55Z")

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> [@FS/FT: \*SOLD 93 Civic Si/LS SOLD\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-ft-sold-93-civic-si-ls-sold/34548/43):
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> The closest E85 station is about a 15 minute drive, it’s by northern lights.
> 
> Let’s say I want to go to elliots house and need gas. My 15 minute drive there just became 45 minutes because I had to drive 15 minutes in the complete opposite direction to get gas. Now factor in between all that driving I just burned 1/3 tank of gas just to fill my tank. I think shit like that will piss me off every time it happens…

want a god damn tissue ? stop acting like a bitch lolol

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