# 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [January 17, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779 "2005-01-17T19:36:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/olds_rocketman/32/5942_2.png) [@OLDS\_ROCKETMAN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OLDS_ROCKETMAN)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/61 "2005-01-20T13:50:37Z")
> [@turbotalon91](#): > > i took a lookat the bottom end of a cobalt as far as the rods they look like that can take some power its gonna be nice **a to b transportation** way better looking then srt fixed ---
**Author:** ![VENOMevo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/venomevo/32/5959_2.png) [@VENOMevo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VENOMevo)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/62 "2005-01-20T13:50:38Z")
they tested the motor… and at 283 hp the rods break… the crank can take 400 hp stock… Its a nice motor to mod… ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/63 "2005-01-20T13:55:26Z")
crank can only take 400hp? most cranks are rated around 800 even in the i4 world…hell even 1g neon cranks were rated something stupid like that. rods breaking at 280 does NOT sound like a nice motor to mod as that wouldnt’ even be putting you in the 13s range ---
**Author:** ![Stroker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stroker/32/5948_2.png) [@Stroker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Stroker)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/64 "2005-01-20T13:59:18Z")
i take back what i said if rods brake at 280 that pretty weak ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/65 "2005-01-20T14:06:17Z")
> [@starboy](#): > > _added_ your talking new models… You got me there i’ll admit that. But used hondas in such, was mostly what i was talking about. > > If your looking for power for cheap na. You got with a honda… dude you buy a civic for cheep NA power? :slap: its still make the same HP and LESS tq than a base model cav which isn’t even avalible anymore. Prices and power though out the past 5 years are pretty comparable. And besides you are talking about NA stock, you never said anything about how much money you have to dump into it. Besides at this point with the ECOTEC that big gap of money difference form domestic to Imports is going to close rapidly and its already being proved on professional levels to the pont of them having to make rule changes because SOME (reads -\> not all just some) of the Import guys were crying they had unfair advantages. Like being able to compensate for the HP being produced by converting the car to rear whell drive with beefier read ends. Now you are no longer allowed to do that you have to keep the same drivetrain that comes with the vehicle. Yes I know we are talking about race teams compared to ricers, but its still the same concept. ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/66 "2005-01-20T14:08:13Z")
big thing honda has over gm (cavalier/sunfire) is weight and handling ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/67 "2005-01-20T14:09:05Z")
> [@starboy](#): > > who dude, beating competition? correct me if im wrong here but ahh… > Prelude H Duce Duce > Power 200 hp > Cobalt SS > Power 205 hp > > well guess your right that supercharger gives it that extra 5… actually it was 190 with automatic and 195 with 5 speed. but still the car isn’t even sold anymroe except used. ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/68 "2005-01-20T14:10:04Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#): > > big thing honda has over gm (cavalier/sunfire) is weight and handling I can accpet that but to make a statement about buying a honda for NA HP is just hilarious. edit: my car fully loaded with stereo equipment, and winter tires on it ran faster than Joels civic by 3 tenths 2 years ago. and my motor was stock with a WAI and CAT back. ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/69 "2005-01-20T14:11:11Z")
k, i agree, makin sure we’re on the same page cuz u know how things go ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/70 "2005-01-20T14:15:15Z")
> [@starboy](#): > > im not bragging im just trying not to blow domestics out of the water. But since you bring it up. You put a Turbo on a stock LS B18 and you can hold 20 psi. “Yes I said 20 psi, your right your pushing it but its been done. Without blowing up, Many times!” And with that your running 12’s. You make a dodge, chevy, ford 4 cyl. do that Then ill stop talking Ford Focus RS ---
**Author:** ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/71 "2005-01-20T14:15:20Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > edit: my car fully loaded with stereo equipment, and winter tires on it ran faster than Joels civic by 3 tenths 2 years ago. and my motor was stock with a WAI and CAT back. You acting like were all professional drag racers here. ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/72 "2005-01-20T14:16:23Z")
> [@starboy](#): > > Also, lets just add this… You can buy the bottom of the barrel honda. K, then buy the top of the line motor and swap it. EZ. Tell me you can do it with domestics as ez as you can do with hondas… Dont think so. > > Heres a quick example. > 93 Hatch Blue Book > about 3,000 to 3,500 (this is mint condition) > K20A2 Swap Everything 8,000 Mounts,motor,tranny(Thats no labor but if your swappin you should be doing it yourself) > ^thats a little hight ive seen em for like 6,500 but w/e > > Your done and running about high 12’s low 13’s. With nothing. Just motor, stock. Yes your not getting nice seats or sporty interior. Your getting a fast “Dependable!” car. Same as all these new ones coming out with half the price. Sure its not new, but who cares? You want to go fast right? dude you are getting way off topic. We are not talking about motor swaps either. we are talking about modding the OEM engine. I have seen at carlisle harrisburg last year a grand prix (or grand am) with a V8 shoved in it. at the GM nationals last year saw a grand am (brad was there also) put down 310 to the wheels with a turbo. weather it was easy or not is not the point. it can be done. But we started off comparing a stock SRT with maybe some bolt on upgrades to a Cobalt SS with Bolt on upgrades An engine swap is not a “Bolt on”. And please don;t give me the well you have to bolt it onto the frame… :finger: ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/73 "2005-01-20T14:16:31Z")
> [@starboy](#): > > You acting like were all professional drag racers here. when in reality most are amature street racers :greddy: ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/74 "2005-01-20T14:17:38Z")
k series motors are overrated, like i said before tony’s b-series in a 4th gen hatch would go 12’s proably full interior and hes got less into it than i got in my talon righ tnow ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/75 "2005-01-20T14:18:07Z")
> [@starboy](#): > > You acting like were all professional drag racers here. Joel has to step on the gas and go. its an auto. I have a 5 speed, we are both pretty much equal. My car ran faster of the two slips. I;m not saying mine is a speed demon, but you are acting like it is night and day. ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/76 "2005-01-20T14:19:14Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#): > > k series motors are overrated, like i said before tony’s b-series in a 4th gen hatch would go 12’s proably full interior and hes got less into it than i got in my talon righ tnow but again like I said this debate was about motors and bolt on, not swaps. ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/77 "2005-01-20T14:20:06Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#): > > when in reality most are amature street racers :greddy: what are you? ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/78 "2005-01-20T14:20:54Z")
i never said it wasn’t i wasn’t directing that at you i was directing it at him and his k20 swap idea. in fact i dont’ even know what we’re talking about anymore i think if brads correct on those numbers then that motor is a little weak, if it’s 400 for the rods and xxx for the crank that’s a little bit better. at the same time i’ve seen honda rods you won’t make 400 on a stock bottom end for very long ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/79 "2005-01-20T14:21:20Z")
> [@Blue4](#): > > what are you? a grand prix owner ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/80 "2005-01-20T14:21:28Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#): > > i never said it wasn’t i wasn’t directing that at you i was directing it at him and his k20 swap idea. in fact i dont’ even know what we’re talking about anymore i think if brads correct on those numbers then that motor is a little weak, if it’s 400 for the rods and xxx for the crank that’s a little bit better. at the same time i’ve seen honda rods you won’t make 400 on a stock bottom end for very long I know ust continuing with the conversation. 🙂 [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779.md?page=5)