# 2005 Chevrolet Cobalt **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [January 17, 2005, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779 "2005-01-17T19:36:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![STAGE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@STAGE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STAGE)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/101 "2005-01-20T16:35:58Z")
> [@Dick Starbucks](#): > > srt does not make 24psi of boost without race gas or bigger turbo > > remember the ss is supercharged and is less easy to turn up the boost. > but the ss has a liquid intercooler which is more efficinent than air to air. My bad…i thought for some reason the cobalt only put out 7 psi ---
**Author:** ![STAGE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@STAGE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STAGE)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/102 "2005-01-20T16:56:04Z")
> [@77rednecktruck](#): > > you’re a goofy fuck ain’t ya 🙂 > > power is power n/a, turbo, n2o, supercharger or whatever else you do to make power. It’s not a cop out for a manufacturer to put forced induction on a car from factory, why do people think this? I agree power is power…in terms of factory cars…it’s about performance per dollar…Right now, the SRT and the SS are the leaders in this category…230 hp SRT @ 21K vs a 210 hp RSX @ 25K hmmmmmm Both cars make good power especially the RSX making more than 100 hp per liter, but it falls short on torque…The SRT is almost at 100 hp per liter (with the aid of the turbo ofcourse)…it’s long stroke (high tq) makes it a more well rounded engine in my opinion than the K20 ---
**Author:** ![STAGE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b77776/32.png) [@STAGE](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/STAGE)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/103 "2005-01-20T17:19:12Z")
some of u have mentioned price when it comes to developing the supercharged ectotec…Once again i have to revert back to the srt (as it is the only example i can reference) Dodge threw cost out the window with developing the enginefor the srt…the idea was to build a strong motor…period…There’s an in depth article about it in one of the Sport Compact Car issues…Dodge didn’t pull any punches when developing the 2.4L Turbo for the SRT-4 and they were still able to sell the car for under 20K…granted the SRT isn’t perfect…some may question the interior (who cares) and the suspension isn’t the best…but for a car that was built to go fast in a str8 line, who cares?..The SRT proves that reliable power doesn’t have to come with a hefty price tag…if Dodge can offer ther SRT, other companies, including GM, can offer something similar…Anyone have any preliminary production numbers for the SS?..The SRT is a limited production vehicle, which would allow for a higher quality engine development. If there will be tons of SS’s available, that might explain GM’s reasoning for wanting to cut costs. ---
**Author:** ![Stroker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stroker/32/5948_2.png) [@Stroker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Stroker)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 6:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/104 "2005-01-20T18:51:04Z")
i’ll give my opinion when i get to test drive 1 and beat the shit out of t when they come out ---
**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/105 "2005-01-20T19:18:44Z")
> [@starboy](#): > > Also, lets just add this… You can buy the bottom of the barrel honda. K, then buy the top of the line motor and swap it. EZ. Tell me you can do it with domestics as ez as you can do with hondas… Dont think so. > > Heres a quick example. > 93 Hatch Blue Book > about 3,000 to 3,500 (this is mint condition) > K20A2 Swap Everything 8,000 Mounts,motor,tranny(Thats no labor but if your swappin you should be doing it yourself) > ^thats a little hight ive seen em for like 6,500 but w/e > > Your done and running about high 12’s low 13’s. With nothing. Just motor, stock. Yes your not getting nice seats or sporty interior. Your getting a fast “Dependable!” car. Same as all these new ones coming out with half the price. Sure its not new, but who cares? You want to go fast right? 90 Pontiac Lemans hatch $1000 2.3L Quad 4 W41 190hp $3000 tops Then the other $5000 in performance parts and you would blow that civic away. ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 7:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/106 "2005-01-20T19:49:23Z")
> [@ECOvenom](#): > > WAY TO GO BLUE4… :blue: ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/107 "2005-01-20T20:03:10Z")
> [@grandamld9](#): > > 90 Pontiac Lemans hatch $1000 > 2.3L Quad 4 W41 190hp $3000 tops > Then the other $5000 in performance parts and you would blow that civic away. the other 5000 would be for lube to shoe horn that motor in there. I used to have a 90 lemans hatch and the engine bay was small and sucked donkey dick. You couldn;t work on shit in there. I think that was the first gerbil powered pontiac. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![22PSI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/4af34b/32.png) [@22PSI](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/22PSI)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/108 "2005-01-20T22:25:40Z")
> [@turbotalon91](#): > > i’ll give my opinion when i get to test drive 1 and beat the shit out of t when they come out same here, haven’t seen any SS’s come through yet. A few 4 door colbalts are in though. maybe soon the SS will be in ---
**Author:** ![greddy33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c2a13f/32.png) [@greddy33](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/greddy33)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/109 "2005-01-20T22:26:08Z")
this thread is getting super gay…name any import or domestic na 4cyl breaking out of the 15’s stock? and comparing na to fi is apples and oranges… honda will never put turbo or any type of fi cause they run too high of compression stock…hell ur lucky if u can run more than 5 or 6 psi stock on a honda bottom end… plus u always have honda’s awesome vtec=virtually torqless economy car =) ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/110 "2005-01-21T05:44:03Z")
> [@greddy33](#): > > this thread is getting super gay…name any import or domestic na 4cyl breaking out of the 15’s stock? > > and comparing na to fi is apples and oranges… > > honda will never put turbo or any type of fi cause they run too high of compression stock…hell ur lucky if u can run more than 5 or 6 psi stock on a honda bottom end… > > plus u always have honda’s awesome vtec=virtually torqless economy car =) pretty sure they would lower the compression to put fi on if they did :rolleyes: na dsms are 9.5:1 are the turbo ones? if honda ran around with “turbo compression” on all their motors they woulndt make much more than 40hp at 7-8:1 compression ---
**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/111 "2005-01-21T08:52:39Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > the other 5000 would be for lube to shoe horn that motor in there. I used to have a 90 lemans hatch and the engine bay was small and sucked donkey dick. You couldn;t work on shit in there. I think that was the first gerbil powered pontiac. 😃 This is the 2.0L turbo motor that came in some sunbirds and GAs in a lemans [http://www3.telus.net/GsiTurbo/Pics/Engine/eng\_01.jpg](http://www3.telus.net/GsiTurbo/Pics/Engine/eng_01.jpg) So if that can fit in a GA and Lemans, then i see no reason why a w41 wouldnt fit. Just for the hell of it, heres the outside of the car [http://www3.telus.net/GsiTurbo/Pics/My\_Astra/new8.jpg](http://www3.telus.net/GsiTurbo/Pics/My_Astra/new8.jpg) after some body mods [http://www3.telus.net/GsiTurbo/Pics/My\_Astra/DSC00767.jpg](http://www3.telus.net/GsiTurbo/Pics/My_Astra/DSC00767.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 9:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/112 "2005-01-21T09:02:44Z")
> [@grandamld9](#): > > This is the 2.0L turbo motor that came in some sunbirds and GAs in a lemans [http://www3.telus.net/GsiTurbo/Pics/Engine/eng\_01.jpg](http://www3.telus.net/GsiTurbo/Pics/Engine/eng_01.jpg) > > So if that can fit in a GA and Lemans, then i see no reason why a w41 wouldnt fit. > > Just for the hell of it, heres the outside of the car > [http://www3.telus.net/GsiTurbo/Pics/My\_Astra/new8.jpg](http://www3.telus.net/GsiTurbo/Pics/My_Astra/new8.jpg) > after some body mods > [http://www3.telus.net/GsiTurbo/Pics/My\_Astra/DSC00767.jpg](http://www3.telus.net/GsiTurbo/Pics/My_Astra/DSC00767.jpg) read my post again, I never said it couldn;t be done, just that you would need 5 grand in lube to do it 😃 ---
**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/113 "2005-01-21T10:16:00Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > read my post again, I never said it couldn;t be done, just that you would need 5 grand in lube to do it 😃 lol, i know what you were getting at, but looking at how that 2.0 sits in the engine bay (doesnt look like it was to much trouble getting it in there) i dont see why the 2.3 would be that much more trouble to swap in. ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/114 "2005-01-21T11:25:17Z")
I skipped pages of this, but: 1. I’m moderately impressed with the Cobalt, but… 2. An RSX makes more horsepower than the SS with the same displacement and no supercharger for similar money. ---
**Author:** ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/115 "2005-01-21T12:48:02Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > And please don;t give me the well you have to bolt it onto the frame… :finger: since when do hondas have frames? ---
**Author:** ![greddy33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c2a13f/32.png) [@greddy33](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/greddy33)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/116 "2005-01-21T12:51:08Z")
rsx may have the same h.p rating, but it will get it’s ass handed in torque…hmmm…example 1g eclipse vs newer prelude with 200 hp…wow same hp numbers…shold be a close race eh? don’t think so…hp numbers alone don’t mean shit…gotta have torque to go along with that hp… ask honda…they have been torqueless since the beginning of time… gsr 175hp 100 ft-lbs of torque…blah!! ---
**Author:** ![CamaroMuscleZ28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@CamaroMuscleZ28](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/CamaroMuscleZ28)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/117 "2005-01-21T13:08:42Z")
Using C&D as a reference they got 14.7 or something close to that as opposed to the RSX-S 15.4. I’m sure private drivers got better times out of the Acura than that, but no private drivers have tested the SS yet either. Also the Type-S is about 2k more roughly on base price. THis puts the SS inbetween the SRT-4 and the RSX-S, and I think its a good middle compromise of the two. Acura is better built and I assume better handling as opposed to the SRT-4’s great Acceleration for speed. ---
**Author:** ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/118 "2005-01-21T13:14:46Z")
> [@CamaroMuscleZ28](#): > > Acura is better built and I assume better handling as opposed to the SRT-4’s great Acceleration for speed. wow a chevy guy saying that I give you props… :bigthumb: ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/119 "2005-01-21T13:17:29Z")
> [@starboy](#): > > since when do hondas have frames? ok smartass… SORRY, BOLT TO THE UNIBODY :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![VENOMevo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/venomevo/32/5959_2.png) [@VENOMevo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/VENOMevo)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2005, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779/120 "2005-01-21T13:20:37Z")
> [@ShalerPunk](#): > > I skipped pages of this, but: > > 1. I’m moderately impressed with the Cobalt, but… > > 2. An RSX makes more horsepower than the SS with the same displacement and no supercharger for similar money. Ya but what is the compression on the RSX… 13 to 1… Cobalt is like 9.5 to 1 :burnout: [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2005-chevrolet-cobalt/171779.md?page=7)