# 2009 Cadillac CTS-V (update with dyno results) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [July 8, 2007, 6:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029 "2007-07-08T06:24:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/41 "2007-09-05T12:53:58Z")
[quote=“Marcus,post:38,topic:32029"”] Once again you prove to be a real tool. I was clearly talking about the CTS-V not the M5. The 1st Gen CTS-V was approx, 49K and with the new motor, I am expecting the cost to rise 10-15%. I know very well the M5 does not cost 65k. Hence the CTS-V shoudl eb approx 2/3’s of the cost of the M5…do I need to spell this out for you or can you comprehend what is written? [/quote] We both know you were talking about the CTS-V when you said 55-65 or whatever. That’s a far fucking cry from a $90k car though. ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/42 "2007-09-05T12:54:00Z")
[quote=“Marcus,post:38,topic:32029"”] Once again you prove to be a real tool. I was clearly talking about the CTS-V not the M5. The 1st Gen CTS-V was approx, 49K and with the new motor, I am expecting the cost to rise 10-15%. I know very well the M5 does not cost 65k. Hence the CTS-V shoudl eb approx 2/3’s of the cost of the M5…do I need to spell this out for you or can you comprehend what is written? [/quote] well than, you extremely suck at quoting, just incase you missed what you did [quote=“Marcus,post:29,topic:32029"”] [quote=FormulaLS1;659863]And the M5 is going to cost how much more then it… [/quote] Probably not too much more…I bet the price of the CTS-V will be 55k-65k[/quote] ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/43 "2007-09-05T12:57:42Z")
[quote=“AWDrifter,post:39,topic:32029"”] Its funny, when it was said to be 600hp I was interested but 540hp dosen’t seem that great to me. Five years ago 400hp would have been outstanding.:biglaugh: Today’s hp numbers are getting crazy. I remember buying my Evolution and thinking 270 was good. Now I wouldn’t buy a car with less than 350-400hp.:lol: [/quote] we were just discussing this a few weeks ago… 95 civic 70hp 01 civic 106hp (51% increase) 07 civic 140hp (32% increase) or 92 vette - 300 97 vette - 345 (15%) 02 vette - 350 (1%) 07 vette - 400 (14%) IB4CivicVsVette ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/44 "2007-09-05T13:26:48Z")
[quote=“66impalass,post:42,topic:32029"”] well than, you extremely suck at quoting, just incase you missed what you did [/quote] And you should chill the fuck out instead of jumping down everyones throat when they post a reply to a thread that you dont agree with. You come off as a cock…but it doesnt bother me in the least…you just look silly. You can say all you want about me or my threads…because i simply dont give a fuck.:gotme: ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/45 "2007-09-05T13:39:26Z")
Hopefully they put some more R&D into the rear suspension so it doesn’t hop like a jack rabbit every time you spin the tires like my GTO and the last CTS-V. Oh wait, that R&D money went into union health care, retirement, overtime and vacation. ---
**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/46 "2007-09-05T13:46:59Z")
[quote=“Nikuk,post:43,topic:32029"”] we were just discussing this a few weeks ago… 92 civic 70hp (1.5L) 01 civic 106hp (51% increase) (1.6L) 07 civic 140hp (32% increase) (1.7L) or 92 vette - 300 (5.7L) 97 vette - 345 (15%) (5.7L) 02 vette - 350 (1%) (5.7L) 07 vette - 400 (14%) (6.0L) IB4CivicVsVette [/quote] Fixed, I took GM too long to figure out Displacement = Power ---
**Author:** ![66impalass](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/66impalass/32/7429_2.png) [@66impalass](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/66impalass)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/47 "2007-09-05T13:54:18Z")
[quote=“93dx–hatch,post:46,topic:32029"”] Fixed, I took GM too long to figure out Displacement = Power [/quote] you should have done it proper style, CID 92 vette - 300 350 CID 97 vette - 345 (15%) 346.7 CID 02 vette - 350 (1%) 346.7 CID 07 vette - 400 (14%) 364.3 CID ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/48 "2007-09-05T13:55:19Z")
:lol: ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/49 "2007-09-05T14:18:17Z")
[quote=“JayS,post:45,topic:32029"”] Hopefully they put some more R&D into the rear suspension so it doesn’t hop like a jack rabbit every time you spin the tires like my GTO and the last CTS-V. [/quote] Mine is going in of Friday for the wheel hop bulletin. Supposedly a new bushing kit and some other things reduce this issue. ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/50 "2007-09-05T14:22:20Z")
^ 05-04-114-001A TSB Controlling Rear Axle or Wheel Hop on Full-Throttle Application from a Standstill and/or Full Throttle 1-2 Shift ( **Install Supplementary Rear Sub-Frame Bushings** ) July 18, 2005 ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/51 "2007-09-05T15:15:53Z")
Who wants to be me that the M5 will be faster than the V in everything? Anyone? Is cost ever really a factor when you’re looking to buy a $70k vehicle over a $100k vehicle? No. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/52 "2007-09-05T15:26:50Z")
[quote=“Jack,post:51,topic:32029"”] Is cost ever really a factor when you’re looking to buy a $70k vehicle over a $100k vehicle? No. [/quote] Yes it is. A new V right now is $53,470 with everything including sunroof, navi, xenons, etc. You can take off the sunroof and get it for $52,270.00 M5 is $82,900 plus Destination & Handling $775 plus a couple grand in accessories. I would say 30 grand separates customers. Even if they raise the price to 60 it will still be 25 grand. ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/53 "2007-09-05T15:37:14Z")
[quote=“Jack,post:51,topic:32029"”] Is cost ever really a factor when you’re looking to buy a $70k vehicle over a $100k vehicle? No. [/quote] Uhh…why wouldn’t it be? We can call it roughly 50%. A 50% difference in price in ANYTHING is a big deal. ---
**Author:** ![BigEd88](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/biged88/32/5064_2.png) [@BigEd88](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigEd88)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/54 "2007-09-05T16:32:44Z")
there’s always a sale at GM, so sticker means nothing. Its nice that Cadillac is going to nearly all hand built interiors too. (see their website) ---
**Author:** ![Nikuk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nikuk/32/7254_2.png) [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/55 "2007-09-05T16:46:18Z")
^ not on the high end cars. ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 6:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/56 "2007-09-05T18:00:14Z")
[quote=“BigRon,post:52,topic:32029"”] Yes it is. A new V right now is $53,470 with everything including sunroof, navi, xenons, etc. You can take off the sunroof and get it for $52,270.00 M5 is $82,900 plus Destination & Handling $775 plus a couple grand in accessories. I would say 30 grand separates customers. Even if they raise the price to 60 it will still be 25 grand. [/quote] I said between a $70k and $100k… not $52k and $100k. [quote=“brent\_strong,post:53,topic:32029"”] Uhh…why wouldn’t it be? We can call it roughly 50%. A 50% difference in price in ANYTHING is a big deal. [/quote] I said between a $70k and $100k… not $50k and $100k. So no, it is not roughly 50% it is 30% EXACTLY. 30% is large, but realistically speaking, people looking at the NEW Vs could honestly get an M5 if they wanted. Is the 5 worth $30k more than the V… well you’ll know that when you see the sales numbers between the two, or the performace comparisons when the cars are actually released. Bring it down to “poverty” level. Would you spend $700 on a Malibu or $1000 on an Impala? Now it isn’t $30k but its still 30%. Most people wouldn’t buy either, but thats neither here nor there. If it were a 50% difference, I still believe the cars are aimed at 2 different crowds. I highly doubt GM will be borrowing too many M5 customers because they added some HP to their CTS. Would it play a factor? Yes. As huge as the 2 of you make it out to be? No. ---
**Author:** ![brent\_strong](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/brent_strong/32/7203_2.png) [@brent\_strong](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/brent_strong)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/57 "2007-09-05T18:36:16Z")
30 / 70 = 42%. With all the fuzzy math already going on, we can call that 50%. If you’re looking at a 70k car (which the CTS-V isn’t), a $100k car is 42% more. ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 6:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/58 "2007-09-05T18:44:30Z")
[quote=“Jack,post:56,topic:32029"”] I said between a $70k and $100k [/quote] there, i quoted it for you. I’m not concerned with your math skills or anyones percieved cost of either vehicle… this is what my comparison was based on. You said a 50% difference in price… If your looking at a $100k car… the $70k car is 30% cheaper is it not? I think it is. You said “A 50% difference in price”, apparently we were looking at it from 2 standpoints. Mine was right, cause I started it. ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/59 "2007-09-05T18:45:39Z")
:lol: ---
**Author:** ![walter](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/walter/32/7202_2.png) [@walter](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/walter)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029/60 "2007-09-05T18:46:02Z")
[quote=“Jack,post:58,topic:32029"”] there, i quoted it for you. I’m not concerned with your math skills or anyones percieved cost of either vehicle… this is what my comparison was based on. You said a 50% difference in price… If your looking at a $100k car… the $70k car is 30% cheaper is it not? I think it is. You said “A 50% difference in price”, apparently we were looking at it from 2 standpoints. Mine was right, cause I started it. [/quote] :picard: [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cadillac-cts-v-update-with-dyno-results/32029.md?page=4)