# 2009 CTS-V Priced (employee price update)
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [October 17, 2008, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613 "2008-10-17T08:08:07Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/1 "2008-10-17T08:08:07Z")
Over 20 Grand less than an M5
Starting price of $59,995 which includes gas guzzler:
MSRP: $57,920.00
- $1,300 gas guzzler
- $750 destination
[http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet?target=http://image.emerald.gm.com/gmnews/viewmonthlyreleasedetail.do?domain=74&docid=49565](http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet?target=http://image.emerald.gm.com/gmnews/viewmonthlyreleasedetail.do?domain=74&docid=49565)
11/04 Update:
"As far as the Guzzler tax, there’s been quite a bit of speculation. The final verdict is Level 3 ($1,300). For comparison, the M5 is a level 7 ($3,700). For anyone curious how the EPA decides this, here’s the table:
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Employee Price:
$51,409.20 + $775.00 (destination) + $1,300 (gas guzzler)
+extras
Also $2,000 cash back for the rest of the year
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### Author:  [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/2 "2008-10-17T08:08:56Z")
:tup: now just if i could buy one
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### Author:  [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/3 "2008-10-17T08:23:47Z")
Some info taken from the V forum:
> "I know that M5 offers some things that the CTS-V doesn’t (like HD radio and sunshades), but almost all the things I mentioned are options on the M5. For a base price of $85,925, here are a list of things you have to pay extra for that are standard on the CTS-V:
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> -Satellite radio: $595
> -iPod hookup w/USB: $400
> -Comfort Access (keyless unlock and start): $1,000
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> So for comparison’s sake, getting the M5 to the same standard equipment level as the CTS-V requires another $1,995 in options, which brings the total to $87,920- that’s approximately $28,000 more than the Cadillac, which is a lot of spare change. If I had 90 grand to blow on cars, I’d rather buy a 2009 CTS-V and either a Cooper S or Cobalt SS than one M5. I know there are people that disagree, but if two cars are $28,000 apart in price, the more expensive one ought to be a much more impressive piece- the M5 is not.
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> I know that each one has certain features the other doesn’t, but I still find the fact that they make common features like Satellite radio and keyless start optional on an $86,000 car to be ridiculous."
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### Author:  [@OfficerK](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OfficerK)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/4 "2008-10-17T08:26:00Z")
For that money I would just get it over with and buy a vette…
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### Author:  [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 8:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/5 "2008-10-17T08:27:31Z")
Replacing a family sedan with a 2 door is not an option for some people.
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### Author:  [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/6 "2008-10-17T08:28:21Z")
People say you will lose that $28,000 as soon as you buy a caddy.
How many Vs are they producing?
I would think it would hold a decent value.
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/7 "2008-10-17T08:28:34Z")
Wow. They are not exactly on par with each other, but to come in 25% cheaper… wow.
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### Author:  [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/8 "2008-10-17T08:31:23Z")
> [@Nikuk](#):
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> Wow. They are not exactly on par with each other, but to come in 25% cheaper… wow.
I would agree with that statement.
It is on par in performance stats, but I am sure there are other things that the BMW might do better.
I can’t wait to drive both.
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### Author:  [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/9 "2008-10-17T08:31:58Z")
Closer to 50% more.
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### Author:  [@Nikuk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Nikuk)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 8:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/10 "2008-10-17T08:33:20Z")
Oh, and in it’s own right: Cadillac’s 556-hp expression :eek:
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### Author:  [@Shockwave179](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shockwave179)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/11 "2008-10-17T08:36:51Z")
> [@Nikuk](#):
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> Wow. They are not exactly on par with each other, but to come in 25% cheaper… wow.
I wouldn’t exactly say they aren’t on par with eachother but that’s probably going to start a huge argument.
:tup: for a fair starting price though.
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### Author:  [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 8:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/12 "2008-10-17T08:38:57Z")
John F. Howell, product director, says the plant could make as many as 8,000 CTS-Vs if demand develops.
That would equate to about 10% of CTS production, which has been averaging about 6,000 units per month. Howell expects annual CTS volume to be 70,000-80,000 units.
A first-year sales target of 8,000 units is “a little optimistic,” Howell admits. But there has been a lot of interest in the car at dealerships and on the Internet, he adds.
BMW of North America LLC says M5 sales totaled 988 units in the U.S. through July 31, about 60% of worldwide sales.
You can buy 06 M5’s for $50k from $90K so that isn’t holding it’s value like a government back security either.
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### Author:  [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/13 "2008-10-17T08:40:20Z")
That explains resale.
8000 compared to 988.
Maybe I could get one next spring with 5000 miles on it for cheap.:eekdance:
That would be schweet.
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### Author:  [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/14 "2008-10-17T08:54:57Z")
wow, with GMS these aren’t unreasonable at all…
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### Author:  [@JCuz](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JCuz)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/15 "2008-10-17T09:23:42Z")
to baller for my balls
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### Author:  [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/16 "2008-10-17T10:15:59Z")
Here is the volume numbers for the V1:
MY 2004 CTS-V total = 2,461
MY 2005 CTS-V total = 3,508
MY 2006 CTS-V total = 1,162 (8 month production then they switched to 2007)
I can’t find 2007 data
> [@Joe](#):
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> wow, with GMS these aren’t unreasonable at all…
In 2007, employee price was 11.2% off of MSRP for the CTS-V
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### Author:  [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/17 "2008-10-17T10:19:02Z")
> [@Blue Eyed Devil](#):
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> People say you will lose that $28,000 as soon as you buy a caddy.
> How many Vs are they producing?
> I would think it would hold a decent value.
they will drop value…
the problem is that even if you’re better than “the benchmark”, you’re still not the benchmark.
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### Author:  [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/18 "2008-10-17T10:21:56Z")
The Benchmark does’t hold value either.
The closer these things get to being out of warranty the faster they depriciate it seems.
I would wait 6 months and get and executive leased car and CPO it for a 6 year 100,000 warranty.
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### Author:  [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/19 "2008-10-17T10:22:30Z")
Do I like the CTS-V? Yes. Hell I almost bought one of the last generation ones. However theblue puts it perfectly. You are still not the benchmark.
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### Author:  [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2008, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2009-cts-v-priced-employee-price-update/56613/20 "2008-10-17T10:39:34Z")
bigron - if you compare the speed at which they drop in value, I think the % of MSRP will fall a lot faster on the CTS-V. I think this is due to more people wanting a used M5 compared to a used CTS-V.
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