# 200hp and 60mpg

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [September 1, 2012, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916 "2012-09-01T11:05:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/1 "2012-09-01T11:05:13Z")

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Would you pay for a sporty car/hatchback with 200hp and 60mpg? How much would you be willing to pay for it? How far off do you think something like this would be (Non-hybrid)

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**Author:** ![Sully93vr4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sully93vr4/32/6278_2.png) [@Sully93vr4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sully93vr4)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 11:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/2 "2012-09-01T11:21:44Z")

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Yes, ~$25k, a year or two??

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/3 "2012-09-01T11:22:49Z")

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no thanks. I dont want a hot rod Prius

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**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/4 "2012-09-01T11:38:05Z")

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I’m assuming it’d be diesel. If its a BMW 120d w/ M-sport package is pay prolly $37-40k.

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**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/5 "2012-09-01T11:41:02Z")

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Why so cloak and dagger Mike? :lol

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**Author:** ![adamea1635](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc8723/32.png) [@adamea1635](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/adamea1635)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/6 "2012-09-01T11:49:28Z")

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Would love a car like that. Would have to be a true manual for me to buy it though. And yes VW GTI range of price. $25K range.

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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/7 "2012-09-01T11:52:16Z")

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Honda did this over 20 years ago with the CRX.

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/8 "2012-09-01T12:17:23Z")

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> [@Road trip from hell](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/road-trip-from-hell/50636/7):
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> Honda did this over 20 years ago with the CRX.

that CRX HF did hit 60 MPG but it was by the old mileage standards and with only 110 hp (granted it weighed half as much as these new cars so it felt like 200hp)

So let say this hypothetical car is a turbo 4 cylinder with max torque at 1200rpms. And PJB, I said NOT a hybrid.

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**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/9 "2012-09-01T12:24:51Z")

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> [@Mafdark"](#):
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> that CRX HF did hit 60 MPG but it was by the old mileage standards and with only 110 hp (granted it weighed half as much as these new cars so it felt like 200hp)
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> So let say this hypothetical car is a turbo 4 cylinder with max torque at 1200rpms. And PJB, I said NOT a hybrid.

PJB rather drive his badass Ford pickmeuptruck.

I would love a car that had 200hp and 60mpg’s, I would pay $28k.

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/10 "2012-09-01T12:42:36Z")

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200 hp isnt much to brag about though. Even a v6 Mustang/Camaro makes over 300.

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/11 "2012-09-01T12:51:26Z")

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> [@Top Gear Season 11](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/top-gear-season-11/50646/2):
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> 200 hp isnt much to brag about though. Even a v6 Mustang/Camaro makes over 300.

well sure, 3.7 liters and 20 mpg…

most ferrari 8 and 12 cylinders had less displacement than that for the last 40 years.

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/12 "2012-09-01T12:53:17Z")

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the Mustang v6 gets 30 mpg.

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/13 "2012-09-01T12:54:36Z")

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> [@So you're driving down the Interstate...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-youre-driving-down-the-interstate/50644/13):
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> the Mustang v6 gets 30 mpg.

29mpg **highway**. average consumers report 20-23 real world.

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**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/14 "2012-09-01T13:12:25Z")

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> [@So you're driving down the Interstate...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/so-youre-driving-down-the-interstate/50644/13):
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> the Mustang v6 gets 30 mpg.

Ok and???

100 more HP (then a theoretical 200hp 60mpg car) with HALF the mpg’s…doesn’t seem comparable at all.

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**Author:** ![PJB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/pjb/32/6389_2.png) [@PJB](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/PJB)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/15 "2012-09-01T14:05:46Z")

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well if you want a gutless turd that gets high mpg, get a Metro.

Im saying that 200hp is nothing special these days.

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**Author:** ![usmc2801](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/usmc2801/32/6387_2.png) [@usmc2801](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/usmc2801)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/16 "2012-09-01T14:40:04Z")

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How is 200hp nothing? Especially for a DD?

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**Author:** ![ReDevil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/redevil/32/6385_2.png) [@ReDevil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ReDevil)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/17 "2012-09-01T14:42:41Z")

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In a truck 200hp might be nothing, but sub 2k lbs car will scoot pretty well. Interested.

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**Author:** ![Baumbauer](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/baumbauer/32/6530_2.png) [@Baumbauer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Baumbauer)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/18 "2012-09-01T18:46:59Z")

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Wasn’t BMW developing a turbo 3 cylinder around 180hp? And what about the VW bluesport(iirc) roadster? I thought that was supposed to be around 50-60mpg. That’s what I think of when I imagine 200hp/60mpg

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**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2012, 4:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/19 "2012-09-02T04:40:18Z")

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I don’t get this thread. Cut to the chase, is something coming out or being developed like this?

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**Author:** ![crazybrew609](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/crazybrew609/32/6319_2.png) [@crazybrew609](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/crazybrew609)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2012, 4:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/20 "2012-09-02T04:52:12Z")

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i would pay 40 to 50k for it, and i believe it’s never coming, hybrid tech and hydrogen tech are becoming a better option to get the mpg’s that most companies will drop fuel motor only options

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