# 200hp and 60mpg

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [September 1, 2012, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916 "2012-09-01T11:05:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2012, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/21 "2012-09-02T05:27:31Z")

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> [@Road trip from hell](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/road-trip-from-hell/50636/8):
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> Wasn’t BMW developing a turbo 3 cylinder around 180hp? And what about the VW bluesport(iirc) roadster? I thought that was supposed to be around 50-60mpg. That’s what I think of when I imagine 200hp/60mpg

the polo bluemotion is around 75hp/80mpg and the golf is 105hp/70mpg, the bluesport roadster prototype is expected to weigh in at 180hp/55mpg

Not sure about the specs on the BMW. Internet is too slow but if you can find them please post them.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2012, 6:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/22 "2012-09-02T06:17:29Z")

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$35K tops.

Difference between 20MPG and 60MPG is likely to be end up around $1000 a year in savings (more as gas price goes up), if its your only car.

So the price has to be comparative (with the above savings in mind) to a fun daily hatch with 200hp that only gets ~20mpg.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2012, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/23 "2012-09-02T07:01:35Z")

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> [@EDGE network unusually slow lately? (AT&T)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/edge-network-unusually-slow-lately-at-t/50626/18):
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> I’m assuming it’d be diesel. If its a BMW 120d w/ M-sport package is pay prolly $37-40k.

This. I’d love to drive one. Just saw a ton of these things (non-M) littered all over Germany for a good week or so. It’s really depressing we don’t have them here.

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**Author:** ![Mafdark](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mafdark/32/6322_2.png) [@Mafdark](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mafdark)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2012, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/24 "2012-09-02T08:32:37Z")

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> **[First Drive: Vauxhall Astra 2.0 CDTi 16V Bi-Turbo 5dr](https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/vauxhall/astra/20-cdti-16v-bi-turbo-5dr/first-drive)**
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> A twin-turbo, twin-intercooled GTC with refreshed looks: we test the hot new ‘performance’ Vaux’…

![http://www.topgear.com/uk/assets/cms/2ce34748-2e41-4e56-ac6c-7b4955fcb1ba/Large%20Image.jpg?p=120831_10:04](http://www.topgear.com/uk/assets/cms/2ce34748-2e41-4e56-ac6c-7b4955fcb1ba/Large%20Image.jpg?p=120831_10:04)

195bhp, 295lb ft of torque from as little as 1,250rpm and 57.7mpg  
£23,925 ($37,995)

It looks like its a pretty potent powerplant and proves there is still huge potential to be extracted from diesels.

The car looks great too _and_ its a GM

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2012, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/25 "2012-09-02T14:13:55Z")

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I’d buy it

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2012, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/26 "2012-09-02T16:53:48Z")

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> [@\*Official\* Shredd & Reagan Cruise Night Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shredd-reagan-cruise-night-thread/47806/348):
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> the polo bluemotion is around 75hp/80mpg and the golf is 105hp/70mpg, the bluesport roadster prototype is expected to weigh in at 180hp/55mpg
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> Not sure about the specs on the BMW. Internet is too slow but if you can find them please post them.

I don’t know if any specs have been released, projected or real, on the bmw 3-banger, but there are some articles about it floating around the internet.

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**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/27 "2012-09-03T09:59:10Z")

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> [@Snky Snky Taffy's meet THIS SUNDAY 29th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snky-snky-taffys-meet-this-sunday-29th/50604/49):
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> [http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/vauxhall-astra-gtc-biturbo-driven-2012-08-31](http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/vauxhall-astra-gtc-biturbo-driven-2012-08-31)
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> ![http://www.topgear.com/uk/assets/cms/2ce34748-2e41-4e56-ac6c-7b4955fcb1ba/Large%20Image.jpg?p=120831_10:04](http://www.topgear.com/uk/assets/cms/2ce34748-2e41-4e56-ac6c-7b4955fcb1ba/Large%20Image.jpg?p=120831_10:04)
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> 195bhp, 295lb ft of torque from as little as 1,250rpm and 57.7mpg  
> £23,925 ($37,995)
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> It looks like its a pretty potent powerplant and proves there is still huge potential to be extracted from diesels.
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> The car looks great too _and_ its a GM

AND it will never come to the US.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/28 "2012-09-04T18:29:44Z")

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I’d buy if diesel. Honda needs to stop being a bunch of cockgobblers and get a diesel over here so i can stop driving shit volkswagens.

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**Author:** ![Phate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Phate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Phate)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/29 "2012-09-08T14:32:15Z")

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> [@Chevy Volt pricing](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/chevy-volt-pricing/50528/80):
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> I’d buy if diesel. Honda needs to stop being a bunch of cockgobblers and get a diesel over here so i can stop driving shit volkswagens.

Agreed, I was really looking forward to their 2.2 turbodiesel. Would be awesome to swap that into an older car as well.

But how about 220hp and 50+mpg? Take honda insight, rip out hybrid shit, install K20A. ??? Profit!

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**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/30 "2012-09-14T07:11:39Z")

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> [@WANTED](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wanted/50642/5):
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> In a truck 200hp might be nothing, but sub 2k lbs car will scoot pretty well. Interested.

Cant imagine a car with todays safety standards weighing less than 2k lbs. Last car I can think of is a 1st gen crx.(smart cars dont really count to me lol)

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**Author:** ![Phate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Phate](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Phate)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2012, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/31 "2012-09-14T22:06:15Z")

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> [@n00gaM"](#):
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> Cant imagine a car with todays safety standards weighing less than 2k lbs. Last car I can think of is a 1st gen crx.(smart cars dont really count to me lol)

Hyundai Accents as late as early-mid 2000’s only weighed 2000-2300lbs.

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 6:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/200hp-and-60mpg/264916/32 "2012-09-28T06:54:49Z")

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I think my fit was around 2450 and my rsx is 2620 and they aren’t big cars. It’s crazy how heavy cars have gotten.

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