# 2010 AE86 **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [August 1, 2007, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2010-ae86/33285 "2007-08-01T14:16:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2010-ae86/33285/61 "2008-02-02T21:51:55Z")
Honest to god, this could very well be the first new car I’ll buy… ---
**Author:** ![91MR2](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/91mr2/32/7217_2.png) [@91MR2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91MR2)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2010-ae86/33285/62 "2008-02-02T21:56:52Z")
> [@reliant\_turbo](#): > > R5 turbo II That’s one car I’d love to own one day. On topic, the AE86 is appealling for a lot of reasons, and it will absolutely sell if priced right. I just hope it looks more like the original test mule. It needs to have it’s visual heritage in there. ---
**Author:** ![Garick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8797f3/32.png) [@Garick](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Garick)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2010-ae86/33285/63 "2008-02-03T12:31:13Z")
I was much more interested in the first post. With this update it has gained 220 pounds, the price has gone up 500,000 yen (combined with the diminishing dollar ~$6k) and I think the first drawings looked much better. It would be plenty fun with 140ish HP, any less I’m not so sure. ---
**Author:** ![IWantaSupra](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/iwantasupra/32/7222_2.png) [@IWantaSupra](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/IWantaSupra)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2010-ae86/33285/64 "2008-02-03T13:33:31Z")
I want this really bad. Any word on gas mileage? ---
**Author:** ![livin4hockey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@livin4hockey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/livin4hockey)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 2:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2010-ae86/33285/65 "2008-02-03T14:53:42Z")
> [@Garick](#): > > I was much more interested in the first post. With this update it has gained 220 pounds, the price has gone up 500,000 yen (combined with the diminishing dollar ~$6k) and I think the first drawings looked much better. It would be plenty fun with 140ish HP, any less I’m not so sure. :word: The power drop with the price increase is not cool. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2010-ae86/33285/66 "2008-02-03T15:10:00Z")
:tup: to small RWD cars. And who cares if its underpowered. Like a stock Civic isn’t underpowered. But now instead of boosting a wrong wheel drive car that only gets more wrong wheel the more power you add you’d be starting out with a proper rear wheel drive setup. ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2010-ae86/33285/67 "2008-02-03T17:02:48Z")
I doubt they would sell a car with only 108hp in todays market. That would take for ever to get up to speed to merge. why can’t they just turn a corolla engine 90\* and put it in there…they are around 135hp. ---
**Author:** ![Minglor](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/minglor/32/7373_2.png) [@Minglor](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Minglor)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2010-ae86/33285/68 "2008-02-03T17:07:04Z")
> [@reliant\_turbo](#): > > wait a min… am i missing something here? > > are you guys really jizzing over a 2425lb, 1.5L car??? i mean if that one image is correct, 110ps is only 108.5hp. I drive a miata. ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2010-ae86/33285/69 "2008-02-03T17:12:43Z")
Minglor it’s ok, he drives a 88 Plymouth Reliant Turbo he’s infinitely more gay than you. ---
**Author:** ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2010-ae86/33285/70 "2008-02-03T21:10:34Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > :tup: to small RWD cars. > > And who cares if its underpowered. Like a stock Civic isn’t underpowered. But now instead of boosting a wrong wheel drive car that only gets more wrong wheel the more power you add you’d be starting out with a proper rear wheel drive setup. lets thing about this for a min instead of getting all emotional over JDM supremacy ;)… it makes no power, its a modern car so with all the safety BS the weight is only going to rise as it nears production (if it gets produced at all), it has current generation engine management which is a total bastard to get around including all the inspection hassles and with a driveline that expects 108hp and RWD so you actually have grip enough to break stuff, when you add the power so it actually performs like youll want to, youll be breaking stuff. youd be better off with the original or with something like SoloIIscoob bought. thats all im saying. itll be a great fun daily driver but for metro speed for 18k, its not worth it. > [@Minglor](#): > > I drive a miata. right, which has more power to begin with, less weight, scads of aftermarket parts available, non OBD-II (i assume yours is old enough), already has a turbo on it (yours), has a factory turbo version available and isnt saddled with heavy safety equipemnt all over it. > [@MPD47](#): > > Minglor it’s ok, he drives a 88 Plymouth Reliant Turbo he’s infinitely more gay than you. right, i drive old crap and i dont care about petty status wars. all i want is a car to perform to how I want it to perform and my car meets that goal. run 13’s? check. 13.2 all day long in 100deg heat. doesnt break down all time? check. only times it broke was a clutch 2 years ago (heavily abused stock piece when running low 13’s) and one operator error misshift (tossed a few rockers and had to replace a valve and a guide). plus, as it sits right now, though it may be FWD, would wipe the floor with that new AE86 for 1/6th of the cost. the make of the car means nothing to me. the potential for reasonable priced performance means much more. honestly, id rather have a Lada (the armpit of small RWD cars) over the new toyota. i could cut it all up and do motor swaps and not worry a bit about inspection, resale (what resale lol) and ruining the car. now, it will be a nice, economical daily driver (the toyota) and will be fun in low traction conditions, but for a performance car similar to a modded original AE86, not a good choice. a civic Si (even like a 92) would trounce it on a road course. Brian ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 6:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2010-ae86/33285/71 "2008-02-04T06:37:33Z")
> [@reliant\_turbo](#): > > lets thing about this for a min instead of getting all emotional over JDM supremacy ;)… it makes no power, its a modern car so with all the safety BS the weight is only going to rise as it nears production (if it gets produced at all), it has current generation engine management which is a total bastard to get around including all the inspection hassles and with a driveline that expects 108hp and RWD so you actually have grip enough to break stuff, when you add the power so it actually performs like youll want to, youll be breaking stuff. First, JDM supremacy? I DD a GTO and hate Civics. Second, “safety BS”? See if you can convince your next of kin to have that put on your tombstone when you get into a serious accident in that reliant of yours. Safety is one of those places I can deal with vehicle weight gain. If you want to argue that small sporty cars should dump some of the power features and sound damping fine, but lets keep the side impact beams and air bags. Third, you’re right, modern ECU’s are a pain, at least in NY and CA. There will be ways around it though. ---
**Author:** ![Bacon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bacon/32/7230_2.png) [@Bacon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Bacon)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2010-ae86/33285/72 "2008-02-04T06:40:40Z")
> [@reliant\_turbo](#): > > are you guys really jizzing over a 2425lb, 1.5L car??? Yes. Wonder if an EJ20 could fit in there. ---
**Author:** ![POOPRA](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/poopra/32/7188_2.png) [@POOPRA](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/POOPRA)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 7:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2010-ae86/33285/73 "2008-02-04T07:00:26Z")
I never trust those renderings, I have seen so many posted on the internet that look nothing like the final cars. ---
**Author:** ![reliant\_turbo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/reliant_turbo/32/7189_2.png) [@reliant\_turbo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/reliant_turbo)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2008, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2010-ae86/33285/74 "2008-02-05T17:44:31Z")
> [@JayS](#): > > First, JDM supremacy? I DD a GTO and hate Civics. > > Second, “safety BS”? See if you can convince your next of kin to have that put on your tombstone when you get into a serious accident in that reliant of yours. Safety is one of those places I can deal with vehicle weight gain. If you want to argue that small sporty cars should dump some of the power features and sound damping fine, but lets keep the side impact beams and air bags. > > Third, you’re right, modern ECU’s are a pain, at least in NY and CA. There will be ways around it though. I didnt mean you with the JDM supremacy. plus i was just mostly goofing around with that one. meh. if i die, im not worried. id just feel bad for my wife with all the cars she’d have to deal with once i am gone. so i guess i cant die till i get the house projects and car projects completed lol. lets see, when was the first car made? 1800’s… how long till airbags came out? late 1980s. i wonder how people survived till then… really, im not worried about it in the least. id rather have a chromemoly cage and a harness rather than a bunch of airbags and active this and heavy useless that. OBDII is a pain. i think i can finally inspect my tracker now after tinkering around with all kinds of crap to get the light out grr… > [@FuzzyFish](#): > > Yes. > > Wonder if an EJ20 could fit in there. after i pissed and moaned a whole bunch and said the car is garbage, etc… 😉 i then thought of this myself. shouldnt add significant weight and then the car might be worthwhile. only problem is the engine management again. ☹ i just hope that subie/toyota didnt do the same thing that BMW did with the 1st new mini… the engine is a 1.6L chrysler derived motor… they changed the bellhousing bolt pattern so you cant put something like a SRT-4 engine in it. ☹ oh well. Brian [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2010-ae86/33285.md?page=3)