# 2011 Dodge Challenger \*Now MOPAR Gang-Bang\* **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [October 5, 2010, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161 "2010-10-05T09:33:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/41 "2010-10-07T21:32:20Z")
> [@Final GTS](#): > > -LOL, yeah, because ONE engine used in a car that isn’t even made anymore really means much of anything. How about that Chevy Cold Slapping Piston problem? how about the Ford… well, EVERYTHING problem? > > -Uh, who said I WASNT talking about the Turbo. As pointed out in the above post, the SRT-8 jeep rapes ALL of the Cayenne’s, without any help from Turbochargers. You stated before for 38stang to get his ford cock out of his ass, but all your doing is humping mopar. I’ve owned 3 different fords with no problems, my father has had ford trucks for years. So what is the “everything” problem you speak of because I have yet to see it. Realistically the intrepid had been the biggest heap of a car yet for my family. You know its ok to like more than one manufacturer. There is life outside of mopar. Also stock for stock cayenne puts out faster 1/4 times. So where does this “raping” come to play? > [@ubengineering](#): > > you dont agree that certain cars should be kept special and valuable? what if a ferrari 360 or lambo or even a ford GT all cost 50 grand? how nice would those cars be if every 1 in 5 people own one. that’s why vettes dont turn heads, neither do stangs, im not saying theyre not awesome, but theyre all over the place, everytime one passes me its just “another one” of those cars > > also for cars that cost that much, it isnt about marketing to the masses, its about having a signature car > > edit: what about the veyron, i know its 1.1 million but theres only a couple hundred of them out there and im sure the company is doing fine, i think dodge can get away with one car that isnt being sold in the quantity of hundreds of thousands > > i believe theyve only sold 26000 vipers total, and one of their customers, a lady i might add, has over a hundred of them just to herself Chrysler had been in the hole to the point of almost selling the viper. So apparently having a flag ship car wasn’t doing them any good financially. I personally don’t care about having special or valuable cars. i’d love if a ford gt sold for $50k new. Then I’d have a chance of owning one in the distant future. lol I would not buy a car because it is special, I like to pay for performance. Even if the GT became as poplar on the streets as a vette, I’d still get one. ---
**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Kramer)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/42 "2010-10-07T21:41:50Z")
mother of god ---
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 9:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/43 "2010-10-07T21:45:01Z")
I’m a Ford guy. I’ve owned 4 stangs, 1 Edge, 1 ZX2 and a Crown Vic. THE only issues I’ve had with any of these vehicles have been minor issues with my 2000 Vic. I beat my GT500 like my wife and she asks for more. That said, I love the SRT8 Jeep. I may be brand loyal but every manufacturer has it’s lemons, EVEN Chrysler. ---
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 11:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/44 "2010-10-07T23:17:09Z")
> [@NYstanger](#): > > You stated before for 38stang to get his ford cock out of his ass, but all your doing is humping mopar. LOL, its a MOPAR THREAD you tool. If you FORD IDIOTS would stay out of threads that have nothing to do with you guys, us “Mopar Humpers” wouldnt have to post anything, now would we? Did I go into a ford thread and post how much they suck? No, I didnt. So stfu. > [@NYstanger](#): > > I’ve owned 3 different fords with no problems, my father has had ford trucks for years. So what is the “everything” problem you speak of because I have yet to see it. Good for you and your father. We have owned close to TWO DOZEN of them in the past 10 years. Who has a larger product sample here? Nothing about Ford short of the GT and some of their BRAND NEW cars were even remotely impressive to me. > [@NYstanger](#): > > Realistically the intrepid had been the biggest heap of a car yet for my family. You know its ok to like more than one manufacturer. There is life outside of mopar. No Shit. I like plenty of other manufacturers. Hell, I even like SOME Fords. But that doesn’t change the fact that I have seen their component quality up close and personal, and was not impressed in the least. I deal with Mopars day in and day out, and I know exactly what type of component quality they have. Ford doesn’t match it, it is closer to import quality than domestic. That makes sense really, since Benz merged with Chrysler, and all of their imported parts started flowing back and forth. I don’t go out of my way to bash other peoples stuff, but when one group of humpers bash another group, in THEIR threads, perhaps they need to be reminded who’s products actually suck more. Yeah, I know Mopar made some junk back in the 80’s and 90’s. But, they have come a LONG way in the last decade, and surpassed all of the other US automakers in engineering and offerings, by a long shot. > [@NYstanger](#): > > Also stock for stock cayenne puts out faster 1/4 times. So where does this “raping” come to play? LOL, that’s not the actual outcome on the street. Now, this is not a Ford Vs. Mopar thread, so stop fucking posting. ---
**Author:** ![Jam](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jam/32/7235_2.png) [@Jam](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jam)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/45 "2010-10-07T23:40:27Z")
> [@Final GTS](#): > > LOL, its a MOPAR THREAD you tool. If you FORD IDIOTS would stay out of threads that have nothing to do with you guys, us “Mopar Humpers” wouldnt have to post anything, now would we? Did I go into a ford thread and post how much they suck? No, I didnt. So stfu. > > Good for you and your father. We have owned close to TWO DOZEN of them in the past 10 years. Who has a larger product sample here? Nothing about Ford short of the GT and some of their BRAND NEW cars were even remotely impressive to me. > > No Shit. I like plenty of other manufacturers. Hell, I even like SOME Fords. But that doesn’t change the fact that I have seen their component quality up close and personal, and was not impressed in the least. I deal with Mopars day in and day out, and I know exactly what type of component quality they have. Ford doesn’t match it, it is closer to import quality than domestic. That makes sense really, since Benz merged with Chrysler, and all of their imported parts started flowing back and forth. I don’t go out of my way to bash other peoples stuff, but when one group of humpers bash another group, in THEIR threads, perhaps they need to be reminded who’s products actually suck more. Yeah, I know Mopar made some junk back in the 80’s and 90’s. But, they have come a LONG way in the last decade, and surpassed all of the other US automakers in engineering and offerings, by a long shot. > > LOL, that’s not the actual outcome on the street. > > Now, this is not a Ford Vs. Mopar thread, so stop fucking posting. > [@Final GTS](#): > > -How does that NOT make sense? you find out what YOUR CUSTOMERS want, you build exactly that, and then you do your best to price it competitively, without letting the selling price dictate the direction the car goes. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU SEEN THE BEAN COUNTERS FUCK UP A PERFECTLY GOOD PROTOTYPE CAR TO MEET A MARKET BRACKET? Obviously we arent talking about a million dollar car here. Chrysler brought multiple platforms they were working on to the table, and let the customers choose the combinations, and suggest additions/deletions as well. > > -LOL, yeah, because ONE engine used in a car that isn’t even made anymore really means much of anything. How about that Chevy Cold Slapping Piston problem? how about the Ford… well, EVERYTHING problem? > > -Uh, who said I WASNT talking about the Turbo. As pointed out in the above post, the SRT-8 jeep rapes ALL of the Cayenne’s, without any help from Turbochargers. > [@Final GTS](#): > > Aaaaand, you obviously dont know that the Viper ISNT dead, and thats just after they rocked the fucking world with the 08-10 versions… {again}, and you must have heard about the Jeep SRT-8 that knocks out the Cayenne and the TBSS? How about the balls to make a TRULY retro Challenger? Or the new Durango SRT-8 that will take over the 7-passenger market? Or the Neon SRT-4 that rocked the 4-banger market? Or the 800 horsepower V-10 Challenger Drag Pack that runs NINES out of the box? Or the SRT-10 concept Challenger that will likely roll in 2011? Do I need to go on? You have no idea what Mopar is cooking these days… obviously. They put all of the other US AutoMakers to SHAME on their total available performance products. Anyone who bashes Mopar obviously hasnt looked at the component quality side-by-side to the other manufacturers… it is so much better its laughable. Or, the more likely reason, are a blind FORD or CHEVY owner that is just a sheep. > > What other manufacturer out there not only listens to what its customers want, but actually involves them in the decision making process? At the Viper owners invitational last weekend, the CEO and Engineers actually shows the prototype body and interiors to the owners, and let them dictate the direction that the new generation car will go! Performance, Looks, and Quality FIRST. Price tag SECOND. > > There are more Mopar and Ford products in my immediate family than you can shake a stick at- FLEETS of them. Which ones do you think last 250-300K, and which ones fall apart after 125? Mopar, and Ford… in that order. Hell, we just junked an 05 Ford Truck with 160K on it… literally drove it to the scarp yard and had the engine fall out when it got there. Meanwhile, the 02-05 Dodge Rams are still kicking with 100K MORE on them. > > With Mopar, you replace Automatic Transmissions, ball joints, and Window Motors. > > With Ford, you replace… the whole truck. > > I would suggest you remove the FORD COCK from your ass before making anymore posts. dude, you need to get a fucking life. srsly > [@f2k](#): > > I wish. It’s actually a clone with a 440 built by a guy in Texas. sweet, im going to put a bmw 2002 tii turbo in my sig brb ---
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/46 "2010-10-08T00:36:50Z")
> [@Jam](#): > > sweet, im going to put a bmw 2002 tii turbo in my sig brb :ham: Do you realize how rare it would be to own a Superbird in that condition? That’s why it’s a clone. It’s not like I’m trying to push it off as my own car. ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/47 "2010-10-08T06:26:41Z")
> [@NYstanger](#): > > Chrysler had been in the hole to the point of almost selling the viper. So apparently having a flag ship car wasn’t doing them any good financially. I personally don’t care about having special or valuable cars. i’d love if a ford gt sold for $50k new. Then I’d have a chance of owning one in the distant future. lol I would not buy a car because it is special, I like to pay for performance. Even if the GT became as poplar on the streets as a vette, I’d still get one. thank god thats not the world we live in, if everyone was able to purchase the same things nothing would be unique ---
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/48 "2010-10-08T07:48:08Z")
> [@Final GTS](#): > > LOL, its a MOPAR THREAD you tool. If you FORD IDIOTS would stay out of threads that have nothing to do with you guys, us “Mopar Humpers” wouldnt have to post anything, now would we? Did I go into a ford thread and post how much they suck? No, I didnt. So stfu. > Hey asshole, reread the thread to see that I never said anything about mopars sucking minus the 2.7 engine. > > Good for you and your father. We have owned close to TWO DOZEN of them in the past 10 years. Who has a larger product sample here? Nothing about Ford short of the GT and some of their BRAND NEW cars were even remotely impressive to me. > > Why the hell has your family purchased over two dozen fords if they are such pieces of shit? > > No Shit. I like plenty of other manufacturers. Hell, I even like SOME Fords. But that doesn’t change the fact that I have seen their component quality up close and personal, and was not impressed in the least. I deal with Mopars day in and day out, and I know exactly what type of component quality they have. Ford doesn’t match it, it is closer to import quality than domestic. That makes sense really, since Benz merged with Chrysler, and all of their imported parts started flowing back and forth. I don’t go out of my way to bash other peoples stuff, but when one group of humpers bash another group, in THEIR threads, perhaps they need to be reminded who’s products actually suck more. Yeah, I know Mopar made some junk back in the 80’s and 90’s. But, they have come a LONG way in the last decade, and surpassed all of the other US automakers in engineering and offerings, by a long shot. > > I can say Hyundai has surpassed the world’s automotive industry in engineering and offerings by a long shot. Doesn’t mean shit. Back it up with some proof. > > Now, this is not a Ford Vs. Mopar thread, so stop fucking posting. > > If you would stop spewing mopar cum out of your mouth long enough to just have a normal conversation, you would have found out Jeep is one of my favorite brands out there. You would also know that I actually like the viper and plan on getting one after a house and selling MY FORD for a MOPAR. Hey Jam :tup: ---
**Author:** ![ultradriver10000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ultradriver10000/32/7397_2.png) [@ultradriver10000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ultradriver10000)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/49 "2010-10-08T08:07:20Z")
I’ve owned all types of cars but prefer GM for some reason, probably due to the LS1 and 350’s in general. My Crown Victoria is a great car, and I’ve owned great Ford products. I can honestly say I’ve never owned a Dodge, I’ve owned Jeeps but they don’t count. Many of my family members have and I almost purchased a brand new Ram last year but didn’t. I would though still. All companies are about the same honestly. GM has been pissing me off as I think their new line up blows and they are going in a bad direction… is Ford or Dodge going in a better direction? NOPE Summaries: GM- You made a nice looking Camaro too big and heavy, with no T-Tops or a vert(OK vert is out 4 years later). You made a killer ZR-1 that most can’t afford. The Grand Sport is a killer car for the money though and the Z06 is nice. You killed the G8, WTF. At least I can go buy a sporty rear wheel drive sedan from you, oh wait…most of your cars suck. The Cobalt SS, Sky, and Solstice rock way to not market them well. Your trucks are ok but what ever happened to the diesel in a half ton? Ford: The new Mustang is great, especially the GT with the track pack bravo. Your other cars mostly blow. Your SUV’s blow because none of them actually have frames anymore, so good luck towing anything. F150 is still nice, but IRS in an expedition? Come on you can’t even tow a car on a trailer with one. I’m glad you have a new engine line up because the ball-less 3.0, 4.0, 4.6 & 5.4 engines SUCKED HARD. Dodge: Track pack cars are awesome!! Oh wait you only made 80 Challenger is cool looking and a fat ass. My 20 year old M3 with a auto I6 is faster then your hemi v8 6 speed car wtf Viper as always rocks socks, please don’t put in a V8. The acr was the best thing you’ve ever done. Dodge trucks are sweet until you have to put in a tranny ever 40K as regular maintenance. F\*ck that noise. Charger, 300m, and Jeep are all pretty sweet in the SRT8 form but any others blow goats. Jeeps in general have always been pretty sweet. The new grand Cherokee looks nice. ---
**Author:** ![Motocrossx23](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/motocrossx23/32/5120_2.png) [@Motocrossx23](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Motocrossx23)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/50 "2010-10-08T08:16:23Z")
Wait, so what car DO you own f2k? Just curious. ---
**Author:** ![Tunerfreak](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tunerfreak/32/7427_2.png) [@Tunerfreak](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Tunerfreak)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/51 "2010-10-08T08:20:39Z")
i still think it looks ugly ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/52 "2010-10-08T08:30:57Z")
So is the Durango SRT8 a go then? Last I heard it was still just speculation. I’d have to check that out for sure. Also the 2nd gen Grand Cherokee SRT8 if they move the damn exhaust so you can tow with it… ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/53 "2010-10-08T09:21:40Z")
> [@Jam](#): > > dude, you need to get a fucking life. srsly > > sweet, im going to put a bmw 2002 tii turbo in my sig brb > [@NYstanger](#): > > Hey Jam :tup: As always you guys show Dan up with sound arguments, facts, and statistics. Oh wait that never happens. Hey Jam :tdown: Mopar and Ford both suck BTW ---
**Author:** ![sobo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sobo/32/5267_2.png) [@sobo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sobo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 9:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/54 "2010-10-08T09:32:44Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > As always you guys show Dan up with sound arguments, facts, and statistics. Oh wait that never happens. > > Hey Jam :tdown: > > Mopar and Ford both suck BTW BMW and mazda suck ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/55 "2010-10-08T09:42:27Z")
Mazda SUX! BMW rules!!! ---
**Author:** ![deebo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deebo/32/5218_2.png) [@deebo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/deebo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/56 "2010-10-08T09:46:35Z")
:picard: ---
**Author:** ![Wahoo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wahoo/32/8265_2.png) [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 9:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/57 "2010-10-08T09:49:21Z")
LS1\>\* ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/58 "2010-10-08T09:50:42Z")
Gee, can anyone tell shitty weather is coming? Winter drama is getting started early this year. ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/59 "2010-10-08T09:54:57Z")
where the fuck is quattro at ---
**Author:** ![Final\_GTS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/final_gts/32/7359_2.png) [@Final\_GTS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Final_GTS)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161/60 "2010-10-08T10:10:35Z")
> [@NYstanger](#): > > Hey asshole, reread the thread to see that I never said anything about mopars sucking minus the 2.7 engine. Yeah, you cry mistreatment as you tools usually do, when in reality you only came into this thread to say your Ford \> Mopar piece. Go cry to someone who gives a fuck. > [@NYstanger](#): > > Why the hell has your family purchased over two dozen fords if they are such pieces of shit? Unfortunately, because they were FORCED into it. Ford is the only manufacturer left that makes the exact style trucks and vans they require. > [@NYstanger](#): > > I can say Hyundai has surpassed the world’s automotive industry in engineering and offerings by a long shot. Doesn’t mean shit. Back it up with some proof. The proof is on the streets. If you cant admit that Mopar has caught up to and exceeded all other USA automakers in terms of products and offerings for the performance market, you are blind. And you havent seen nothing yet… wait another 2 years. > [@NYstanger](#): > > If you would stop spewing mopar cum out of your mouth long enough to just have a normal conversation, you would have found out Jeep is one of my favorite brands out there. You would also know that I actually like the viper and plan on getting one after a house and selling MY FORD for a MOPAR. Good for you. Let me know when you get it so I can bend you over your wallet and fuck you in the ass 😉 ---------- Post added at 01:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:04 PM ---------- > [@Mike93](#): > > But the comment “TRULY build a retro Challenger”??? Come on…Mustang and Camaro were pounding pavement before the modern pig Challenger was on the streets. Durango SRT8…will anyone even care??? The Camaro [even the newest one] and all but the latest mustang are a FAR departure from the retro styling of the old school muscle cars, that was my only point. And the new Durango is based on an all new platform… so yeah, people might care. It is not nearly as big as the only one, and based on Jeep GC architecture. Overall, it should have performance not all that different than the Jeep SRT-8. Sorry guys, my life calls. I have to run. I will be back later to prop up the Mopar fort again. LMAO. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2011-dodge-challenger-now-mopar-gang-bang/161161.md?page=4)