# 2012 BMW M5 **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [January 14, 2010, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185 "2010-01-14T07:10:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2011, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/81 "2011-03-25T11:33:54Z")
> Contradictory to earlier rumblings, the upcoming F10 BMW M5 will reportedly be available with the option of a traditional manual transmission here in the United States. As with the E60 M5, we’d expect the stick-shift-equipped F10 to be slower than its automated sister, but we doubt it will amount to anything noticeable. Buyers will still be able to opt for the seven-speed dual-clutch transmission here in the States, if they so desire. > > There’s one option, however, that BMW won’t be offering in our market. In Germany, buyers can opt to have the car’s top speed raised to 189 miles per hour, provided they agree to enter an M5-specific driver training program. This will likely be a costly option – in addition to the price of the training program, buyers will have to shell out for upgraded engine management software, as well as a set of ZR-rated tires. > **[Rumormill: 2012 BMW M5 to get manual tranny in U.S. - Autoblog](http://www.autoblog.com/2011/03/25/rumormill-2012-bmw-m5-to-get-manual-tranny-in-u-s/)** > > 2012 BMW M5 spy shots – Click above for high-res image gallery > > > Contradictory to earlier rumblings, the upcoming F10 BMW M5 will reportedly be ava ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/82 "2011-04-07T06:01:50Z")
![http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2011/04/003-2012-bmw-m5-concept-opt.jpg](http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2011/04/003-2012-bmw-m5-concept-opt.jpg) Looks like the production F10 M5 will debut in September > **[Production 2012 BMW M5 will debut at Frankfurt Motor Show](https://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/06/production-2012-bmw-m5-debut-frankfurt-motor-show/)** > > BMW M5 Concept – Click above for high-res image gallery > > > Images and details of the BMW M5 Concept have been soaking up the Internet's bandwidth fo ---
**Author:** ![MPD47](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mpd47/32/7383_2.png) [@MPD47](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MPD47)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/83 "2011-04-07T06:09:32Z")
Can’t wait, talking about doing Euro delivery with a friend on his. Shit looks awesome. Chris Harris calls it a “true successor to the e39” when he test drove the prototype. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 1:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/84 "2011-05-03T13:34:14Z")
> Exact details of this upcoming M5 have yet to be revealed, but BMW has reportedly confirmed that an AWD-version is in the cards. The production version of the 2012 BMW M5 is set to hit the Frankfurt Motor Show stage in September > **[All-wheel-drive BMW M5 in the cards - Autoblog](http://www.autoblog.com/2011/05/03/all-wheel-drive-bmw-m5-in-the-cards/)** > > 2012 BMW M5 Concept – Click above for high-res image gallery > > > The times, they are a changin'... and so is the BMW M5. Since it hit the streets bac ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/85 "2011-05-03T15:34:39Z")
AWD :tif: End of M5 burnouts? ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/86 "2011-05-04T05:41:53Z")
AWD version implies it’s an optiion? ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/87 "2011-05-04T07:51:02Z")
Wish the CTS-V had an AWD version. These days RWD just takes away too many people in the North who would otherwise DD a car like this. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 7:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/88 "2011-05-04T07:54:22Z")
Yeah, you’re right. The lack of AWD is what deters people from M5s. Not the obsurdly un-necessary power, gas mileage, or $85,000 price tag. It’s got to be the AWD. ---
**Author:** ![Joe](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joe/32/7219_2.png) [@Joe](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Joe)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 7:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/89 "2011-05-04T07:56:48Z")
Spending 85k on this AND having to buy a range rover for the winter because it won’t move is even more of a deterrent. ---
**Author:** ![JayS](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jays/32/15375_2.png) [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/90 "2011-05-04T07:58:23Z")
> [@boardjnky4](#): > > Not the obsurdly un-necessary power, gas mileage, It’s statements like this that make me picture you walking around in a little pink dress picking out flowers to match your car. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/91 "2011-05-04T08:02:39Z")
haha no, dont get me wrong. I love me some horsepower, but normal everyday people usually could give a shit less about it. I must drive more than you do though. Gas mileage is a major deterrent to me these days. I drive almost 20k miles a year. It adds up. Oh, and, the flowers I am picking would match your car too. I’ll be sure to pick some extra’s for you. :smooch: haha, my post above wasn’t totally serious anyways. I just found a sense of irony in that with all the reasons why an 85K super sedan wouldn’t work for 97% of people in the market, that AWD was the reason why it wouldn’t ---
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/92 "2011-05-04T08:36:19Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#): > > AWD :tif: > > End of M5 burnouts? When did everything about cars turn into being able to do HHHEEAAATTTEEEERRRZZZZ ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/93 "2011-05-04T08:52:22Z")
Considering the X5 and X6 M have AWD with the same drivetrain, I would be suprised if this did not eventually have a AWD option. I would be suprised if it was the only option. ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/94 "2011-05-04T08:58:32Z")
> [@NYstanger](#): > > When did everything about cars turn into being able to do HHHEEAAATTTEEEERRRZZZZ I don’t know…but I do know I would have no interest in an M5 I couldn’t do heaters in. ---
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/95 "2011-05-04T09:13:52Z")
Why though? What is so great about sitting there and doing a burnout with a big sedan? Being able to do donuts in a parking lot or something seems more worth while then a burnout. ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/96 "2011-05-04T09:21:41Z")
Maybe some sick axis spins… ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 9:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/97 "2011-05-04T09:50:09Z")
When I say be able to do heaters I mean all that comes with driving a RWD car. Not just doing a heater. It is simply my preference for performance driving. ---
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/98 "2011-05-04T09:59:20Z")
> [@cougarspeed](#): > > When I say be able to do heaters I mean all that comes with driving a RWD car. Not just doing a heater. It is simply my preference for performance driving. Ok that makes more sense. ---
**Author:** ![boardjnky4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/96bed5/32.png) [@boardjnky4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/boardjnky4)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/99 "2011-05-11T12:41:08Z")
[https://youtu.be/6aTbyxc9Ko0](https://youtu.be/6aTbyxc9Ko0) ---
**Author:** ![BigRon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/58956e/32.png) [@BigRon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/BigRon)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185/100 "2011-06-15T05:34:08Z")
Official > Onlookers can tell the M5 is a special car with its enlarged air intakes in the front fascia, quartet of tailpipes and 20-inch wheels with Z-rated tires, but it doesn’t need to be festooned with wings and bling to make its point. > > The 2012 M5 is about more than mere surface beauty, after all. The sonorous V10 of the last M5 has been traded out for a twin-turbocharged V8 fist. Power is up, with 552 horsepower (the V10 produced 507 hp) coming on at 6,000 rpm – 1,750 rpm lower than the V10. Torque is hugely boosted from 383 pound-feet to 501 lb-ft, which will be great for shoving this car to 60 miles per hour in a reported 4.4 seconds. That’ll route to the rear wheels via a standard dual-clutch transmission, though a proper six-speed stick will reportedly be available here in the United States. > > The cost of entry is rumored to be around €100,000 in Germany – about $144,000 based on current exchange rates. We’re sure the actual U.S. price won’t be anywhere near that high > **[First official 2012 BMW M5 shots hit the web - Autoblog](https://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/15/first-official-2012-bmw-m5-shots-hit-the-web/)** > > 2012 BMW M5 – Click above for high-res image gallery > > > Official 2012 BMW M5 images have leaked onto the Internet as the latest iteration of the leg Edit tried to change the title and failed [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-bmw-m5/78185.md?page=6)