# 2012 BOSS 302 come with 2 tunes from factory, Street & Race
**URL:** https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive
**Created:** [November 12, 2010, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926 "2010-11-12T09:27:16Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2010, 3:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/21 "2010-11-13T03:44:12Z")
> [@Shaggy](#):
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> I wonder how the GT500 / saleen/ roushe guys feel about spending ridiculous $. The new 5.0 and this boss makes money well spent for a mustang.
The new Boss is an amazing piece of machinery no doubt. What you don’t realize is this 'stang is supposed to be a very limited production car. If that’s the case, then there will be a not so nice ADM slapped on.
The new 5.0 GT is killer as well. It still won’t hang with an '07 GT500, bang for buck.
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### Author:  [@JustinH](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JustinH)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2010, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/22 "2010-11-13T05:41:35Z")
Ford is building some of the most exciting and innovative cars on the fucking planet right now. I haven’t been impressed by anyone else recently. I had the chance to borrow my buddies new GT with the 5.0 and the Microsoft Sync. Absolutely insane car, his MPG’s were in the high 20’s. This is one of the fastest factory non-exotic cars I have ever driven, and it has excellent road manners.
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### Author:  [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2010, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/23 "2010-11-13T11:37:49Z")
> [@JustinH](#):
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> Ford is building some of the most exciting and innovative cars on the fucking planet right now. I haven’t been impressed by anyone else recently. I had the chance to borrow my buddies new GT with the 5.0 and the Microsoft Sync. Absolutely insane car, his MPG’s were in the high 20’s. This is one of the fastest factory non-exotic cars I have ever driven, and it has excellent road manners.
Did you see the MotorTrend m3 vs GT?
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2011, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/24 "2011-04-26T06:44:35Z")
Not a common problem, but seems like this could have been bad for Motortrend:
> Total brake failure during regular performance testing is a very rare occurrence. I’ve had plenty of cars get squishy pedals and smelly pads after hot laps around a road course. But in more than 25 years of testing, I’ve never known of such a complete—and potentially catastrophic—loss of braking.
> **[MotorTrend: New Cars - Car News and Expert Reviews](https://www.motortrend.com/)**
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### Author:  [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2011, 6:51am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/25 "2011-04-26T06:51:08Z")
So it’s like a valet key? Meh.
Does this car have the crappy Chinese transmission too?
Edit: This reminds me of the M5 that does not really have 500hp unless you go through the computer menus and select 500hp. Ghey.
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2011, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/26 "2011-04-26T06:58:03Z")
The reason Ford is starting to make some great cars is they have guys like Jim Farley. Here’s a quote from him to Car and Driver when they did a road test of the Boss 302.
> [@Jim Farley](#):
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> From a business standpoint, the Boss 302 shouldn’t have happened. But it happened. My dream for the car was that it would make a lot of money for a guy street racing. **It should be a car that winds up on YouTube doing something illegal**. I’ve been waiting 20-plus years to launch a car like this.
You don’t see honest car guy quotes like that very often, and certainly not from someone with “global VP” in their title.
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### Author:  [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2011, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/27 "2011-04-26T07:07:35Z")
I wonder what Ford’s legal liability team thinks of that quote. lol Cool none the less .lol
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### Author:  [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2011, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/28 "2011-04-26T08:26:52Z")
In my opinion it is cars like the boss that help keep people interested in the mustang. The boss may not directly generate profit but I imagine it was do very well indirectly. That sounds like a hell of a scary situation on the brakes. It is good to hear that ford jumped on things so quickly to check for quality on the production line.
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### Author:  [@TrueBlue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/TrueBlue)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2011, 9:33am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/29 "2011-04-26T09:33:29Z")
> [@Onyx Z32](#):
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> Not a common problem, but seems like this could have been bad for Motortrend:
> [http://blogs.motortrend.com/boss-mustang-failed-brake-test-14593.html](http://blogs.motortrend.com/boss-mustang-failed-brake-test-14593.html)
From that article, they surmise:
> How the arm was misassembled on our Boss 302 tester remains a mystery to Ford, and to us. The only thing we can think of is this particular car’s master cylinder had been removed after it left the factory, and the incorrect connection to the brake pedal arm made when it was reinstalled, although we have no proof either way. **Based on the evidence, we’re prepared to chalk this incident up to a freakish combination of circumstances**.
Failures happen, especially on tracks, and they spent the day before hot-lapping Laguna Seca, too. Could have been worse. ☹
Case in point: C&D put a Nismo 370Z into a wall at VIR after it’s brakes failed.
[http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q2/z\_meets\_wall\_we\_investigate\_why\_the\_nismo\_z\_s\_brakes\_failed\_at\_lightning\_lap-feature](http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10q2/z_meets_wall_we_investigate_why_the_nismo_z_s_brakes_failed_at_lightning_lap-feature)
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### Author:  [@JayS](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JayS)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2011, 9:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/30 "2011-04-26T09:43:25Z")
The Car and Driver 370Z was actually much worse because they couldn’t trace it back to some improperly installed part like the Mustang. Quite the opposite actually. They figured out that they boiled the fluid due to crappy brake pads and venting and managed to duplicate it on another car. Yeah, we all know stock brakes aren’t up to track duty but it’s worth noting that the 370Z was the ONLY car to ever have complete brake failure during C&D’s Lightning Lap.
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### Author:  [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2011, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/31 "2011-04-26T13:16:24Z")
Well cool or not the boss’s motor isn’t under rated like the new 5.0, an transmissions failures are already popping up, my boss’s “boss 302” is already in to get transmission work and a rear axle replaced… What a disappointment
Not to mention the red key isn’t tunable so if you want a tune it has to be on the regular key
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### Author:  [@Carbonfiberhooded](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Carbonfiberhooded)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2011, 1:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/32 "2011-04-26T13:25:15Z")
I foresee a whole new kind of internet drama as far as racing cars goes.
“You only beat me because I didn’t have my red key on me…”
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### Author:  [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2011, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/33 "2011-04-26T14:38:03Z")
Psssh. Can Am already introduced separate keys based on performance for their utv last summer
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### Author:  [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/34 "2011-04-26T16:14:16Z")
Well can’t you tune the regular key to be the red key?
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### Author:  [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/35 "2011-04-26T17:15:12Z")
> [@Wahoo](#):
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> Well can’t you tune the regular key to be the red key?
Well can’t you tune the red key to be the regular key?
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### Author:  [@Wahoo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Wahoo)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/36 "2011-04-26T17:19:02Z")
Lol, you know what I mean! Like just tune the car to be pro race setting the whole time!
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### Author:  [@Blue\_Eyed\_Devil](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blue_Eyed_Devil)
#### Post date: [April 26, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/37 "2011-04-26T17:19:14Z")
> [@NYstanger](#):
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> Psssh. Can Am already introduced separate keys based on performance for their utv last summer
Polaris did it years ago too on the Ranger.
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### Author:  [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/38 "2011-09-23T17:08:09Z")
Well, so much for this idea:
> Because it’s an add-on part that affects engine emissions, Ford needed to have Trackey approved by the California Air Resources Board. Doing so required Ford to meet CARB’s three big rules for aftermarket parts: They can’t worsen emissions, affect the engine’s durability or mess with on-board computer diagnostics.
> So far, Ford hasn’t been able to do that.
> **[California is why you can't get the Boss Mustang TracKey](https://jalopnik.com/california-is-why-you-cant-get-the-boss-mustang-trackey-5842502)**
>
> Ford's Trackey setup for the Mustang Boss 302 promised to unlock the pony car's racing side with special software engaged by a separate key. Yet nearly a year after being announced, Trackey still isn't for sale, thanks to bickering between Ford and...
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### Author:  [@ieatpaint](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ieatpaint)
#### Post date: [September 23, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/39 "2011-09-23T17:12:49Z")
California sucks.
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### Author:  [@Inn-Tune](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Inn-Tune)
#### Post date: [September 24, 2011, 5:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2012-boss-302-come-with-2-tunes-from-factory-street-race/205926/40 "2011-09-24T05:43:36Z")
Yea we had a customer that owns one confirm he still doesn’t have the key and now Ford is going to charge people over $500 to buy it when it becomes available, probably because of all the money they wasted due to CARB testing.
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