# 2015 Mustang (the new detroit war isn't all about horsepower) **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [October 18, 2013, 6:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379 "2013-10-18T18:15:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/101 "2013-12-07T15:16:19Z")
> [@LZ](#): > > I wish they had the turbo 4 as a mid range power level(350-360ish)between the 305 V6 and the 420 V8 the V8 is also under rated so the 4cyl wouldn’t be stepping on toes read above > [@edmunds](#): > > The official line today is that the EcoBoost 2.3 will develop more than 305 hp at 5,500 rpm and in excess of 300 lb-ft of torque between 2,500 and 4,500 rpm on 87 octane, though our sources indicate the peak output will land in the neighborhood of 330 hp. The V6 drops power to 300 hp flat and 270 torque, so rumor is the 2.3 will be up 30 hp and 30 torque over the V6. The 2.3 also gets an optional performance pack of GT brakes and other goodies to separate it even more from the V6. > [@edmunds](#): > > Another intriguing wrinkle is an optional Performance Pack option for the EcoBoost engine. It adds the 14-inch, four-piston fixed-caliper brakes from the V8-equipped GT model, as well as a shorter 3.55:1 final-drive ratio (3.15 gears are standard). Summer tires measuring 255/40 and 19-by-9-inch wheels also find their way under the fenders. The V8 should go up to 440 hp. > [@edmunds](#): > > The sum total of these changes brings its output to…well, Ford’s only saying that it will eclipse the 420 hp and 390 lb-ft of the current V8. We expect it will pick up 20 hp and 10 lb-ft of torque. ---
**Author:** ![Onyx\_Z32](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/onyx_z32/32/7581_2.png) [@Onyx\_Z32](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Onyx_Z32)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/102 "2013-12-08T07:57:10Z")
This looks car looks exponentially better than before. :tup: to the design team! ---
**Author:** ![articzap](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/articzap/32/7361_2.png) [@articzap](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/articzap)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2013, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/103 "2013-12-08T10:30:41Z")
… > [@Big Boss"](#): > > ![http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7327/11257912974_b7b9fb7dfd_o.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/e/5/e5447de39a79783083c7bbbde6d49e44a708db68.jpeg) > ![http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3703/11257314735_629e6c4a90_o.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/2/7/2730d8118b6e0a4aee9ef2791b4e13db6d4f922f.jpeg) > ![http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3775/11257826503_20e8d5e17a_o.jpg](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/1/6/16d0e9efb5e168d13f024d8859a7c21751c772f2.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![articzap](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/articzap/32/7361_2.png) [@articzap](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/articzap)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/104 "2013-12-09T18:39:26Z")
… > [@Big Boss"](#): > > [https://youtu.be/8nefU4Z6xWM](https://youtu.be/8nefU4Z6xWM) - - - Updated - - - … > [@Big Boss"](#): > > **New right-hand drive Ford Mustang 2015 unveiled for UK** > > > **The Ford Mustang has been in production for nearly 50 years but never before has a version been built specifically for Europe, that’s all about to change** > > > > Ford has unveiled the new Ford Mustang 2015, the first Mustang ever that will be heading to the UK with right-hand drive. It’s also the company’s most tech-heavy Mustang yet featuring an 8-inch touchscreen and full Ford SYNC voice control. > > > > The new Mustang 2015 will be the first Mustang to be built in both left-hand drive and also as a new right-hand drive UK/European variant. > > > > An all-new sleek design has been adopted whilst still retaining all the classic styling cues that make it most certainly a traditional Mustang. Look past the design and you’ll realise that this is the most futuristic Mustang ever built. > > > > Inside there’s now a new 8-inch touchscreen display that shows essential information including navigation, music as well as phone connectivity options and climate control. > > > > There’s also a smaller 4.3-inch LCD central display behind the wheel which will show essential navigation info and even performance data using TrackApps which will show G-Force, lap times and more. For those that prefer road trips or just cruising there’s also the option of a premium 12-speaker sound system. > > > > Of course it wouldn’t be a Mustang without an enormous engine and yes, the 2015 Mustang does offer the choice of having that classic 5-litre V8 which throws out a massive 426PS and over 529Nm of torque. > > > > For those that want something a little different though Ford will also offer the new Mustang with a more environmentally-friendly 2.3-litre EcoBoost engine that brings with it a state-of-the-art turbocharger and a still impressive 309PS and 407Nm of torque. > > > > Whatever the choice the tech doesn’t stop there with the GT model getting performance brakes whilst all Mustangs will come with a range of toggles which can quickly adjust engine response, steering effort and ESP settings. > > > > Finally Ford hasn’t forgotten those who live the ‘real’ driving experience, the GT manual transmission will come with launch control letting you hit those goosebump-inducing starts every time. > > > > So when can you buy it? Well unfortunately us UK customers are in for a wait as the Mustang UK variant won’t arrive until early 2015 and there’s no word on pricing but considering how much the US version costs expect something equally as competitive in the UK. - - - Updated - - - … > [@Big Boss"](#): > > **2015 Ford Mustang Will Be Nürburgring-Tuned, But No Times Will Be Released** > > > The Nürburgring-Nordschleife, for good or ill, has become the benchmark for a performance car’s abilities. It’s certainly a fine place to tune a car–it has a huge variety of corners, surfaces, bumps, and long straights. But do lap times really matter? > > > Ford apparently thinks they don’t–at least in the case of the new 2015 Mustang. > > > Speaking with Fox News’s Gary Gastelu at the New York unveiling of the new Mustang, Ford’s chief engineer for the car, Dave Pericak, said, "We’re not going to release the times, but we will be on the Nürburgring, we will be in Europe, showing what this car can do. > > > The new 2015 Mustang will be available in late 2014 in both convertible and fastback coupe forms. The same base 3.7-liter V-6 rates 300 horsepower and 270 pound-feet of torque; an all-new 2.3-liter EcoBoost turbocharged four-cylinder rates 305 horsepower, but 300 pound-feet of torque; and a revised version of the Coyote 5.0-liter V-8 scores 420 horsepower and 390 pound-feet of torque. ---
**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/105 "2013-12-09T18:59:38Z")
> [@articzap](#): > > … ha those are pics of the same car i saw at Cars and Coffee on sat in irvine. i recognize the 964 RS America with terrible wheels in the background ---
**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/106 "2013-12-13T13:37:17Z")
![http://i.imgur.com/5pTCByL.jpg](http://i.imgur.com/5pTCByL.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2013, 9:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/107 "2013-12-13T21:05:54Z")
Ugh. Kill it with fire. ---
**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2013, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/108 "2013-12-14T08:15:01Z")
x2^^ ---
**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/109 "2013-12-17T06:59:38Z")
![https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1470206_10152015758131839_915774109_n.jpg](https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1470206_10152015758131839_915774109_n.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![cougarspeed](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/cougarspeed/32/7468_2.png) [@cougarspeed](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/cougarspeed)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/110 "2013-12-17T14:05:34Z")
That is the wheel setup I am considering for my nova. I wouldnt be all stretched and poked but I love em. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2013, 10:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/111 "2013-12-18T10:04:01Z")
![http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2015-Ford-Mustang-sedan-artists-rendering-101-626x382.jpg](http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2015-Ford-Mustang-sedan-artists-rendering-101-626x382.jpg) ![http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2015-Ford-Mustang-sedan-artists-rendering-102-626x382.jpg](http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2015-Ford-Mustang-sedan-artists-rendering-102-626x382.jpg) ![http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2015-Ford-Mustang-sedan-artists-rendering-103-626x382.jpg](http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2015-Ford-Mustang-sedan-artists-rendering-103-626x382.jpg) Only if someone will render the 4 door + wagon, then I’d be sold… until someone renders the Ranchero version. ---
**Author:** ![08GT500](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/08gt500/32/5417_2.png) [@08GT500](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/08GT500)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/112 "2013-12-18T22:38:59Z")
Kill it with fire, again. ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/113 "2013-12-19T06:50:14Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z](#): > > Only if someone will render the 4 door + wagon, then I’d be sold… until someone renders the Ranchero version. ![http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6bh-9wUZz14/T56l8L_D2II/AAAAAAAAnyQ/CaGgwLJ2UUk/s400/9XTeZ.gif](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/3X/3/b/3b8c640cdc992553791297019f4e53d1d00a5023.gif) That’s about what they should do with the 4 door design. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_B](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paul_b/32/5452_2.png) [@Paul\_B](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paul_B)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2013, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/114 "2013-12-19T09:20:02Z")
4 door design should be badged as a classic four door Ford. ---
**Author:** ![fairgentleman\_Z](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/fairgentleman_z/32/7263_2.png) [@fairgentleman\_Z](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/fairgentleman_Z)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2014, 5:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/115 "2014-06-15T05:27:51Z")
> [@fairgentleman Z"](#): > > Allegedly it will be 400 lbs lighter, 12" shorter length, and 6.5" narrower. > > [http://www.dailytech.com/Report+2015+Ford+Mustang+to+Shed+400+Pounds+to+Boo](http://www.dailytech.com/Report+2015+Ford+Mustang+to+Shed+400+Pounds+to+Boo) st+Fuel+Efficiency/article33177.htm **Actually it is 86 lbs MORE, 0.2 inch shorter overall, 1.4 inches lower, and 1.5 inches WIDER.** [http://blog.caranddriver.com/dont-worry-yall-2015-mustang-curb-weights-revealed-gains-are-minimal/](http://blog.caranddriver.com/dont-worry-yall-2015-mustang-curb-weights-revealed-gains-are-minimal/) ---
**Author:** ![HouseS2K](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/houses2k/32/100273_2.png) [@HouseS2K](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HouseS2K)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2014, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/116 "2014-06-15T08:12:23Z")
Needs a duck tail spoiler something like the 03/04 cobra or saleen. the ass is to bland other than that looks great Sent from my iPhone 5 ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/117 "2014-06-20T13:00:22Z")
I am hugely disappointed that they were not able to get the weight down. A coupple hundred lbs weight diet would have went a long way. ---
**Author:** ![yamba6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/yamba6/32/5161_2.png) [@yamba6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/yamba6)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/118 "2014-06-20T13:48:14Z")
So what is causing these cars to gain more weight? Is it the technology and crash testing that’s causing them to put more electronics, more wires, more airbags, thicker/stronger framing? What light weight “sports” car does the US produce that is under $35k? Now of those, which are RWD? ---
**Author:** ![joelster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joelster/32/7258_2.png) [@joelster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/joelster)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 4:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/119 "2014-06-20T16:45:36Z")
> [@yamba6](#): > > So what is causing these cars to gain more weight? Is it the technology and crash testing that’s causing them to put more electronics, more wires, more airbags, thicker/stronger framing? > > What light weight “sports” car does the US produce that is under $35k? > Now of those, which are RWD? None. They get around the weight part by giving them 400+ HP V-8’s though. I’m shocked at the weight of the new Mustang. I heard for 6 months that it was going to be substantially lighter and have a few more ponies. Now it’s official, that they will indeed weigh 50-100lbs more, and the Coyote 5.0 is only up a few hp. The 2016 Camaro is going to be all new on a new platform. It WILL weigh substantially less, and it will have a variation of the Corvette’s LT1 (455-460hp). Not gonna be pretty for the pony car wars. Dodge is selling the Challenger Hellcat with an insane 600+HP HEMI, but it’s still on the 300M platform, and you can expect it to weigh 4300lbs easy. I don’t know what Dodge is going to do in the near future. They don’t have enough market share with the Challenger to develop a new/lighter platform. Challenger R/T’s are sweet looking cars and sound amazing, but 375hp in a 4200lb car is the same ratio as the Mustang V-6 and Camaro V-6. ---
**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2014, 4:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379/120 "2014-06-20T16:49:45Z")
> [@yamba6](#): > > So what is causing these cars to gain more weight? Is it the technology and crash testing that’s causing them to put more electronics, more wires, more airbags, thicker/stronger framing? > > What light weight “sports” car does the US produce that is under $35k? > Now of those, which are RWD? What “sports” cars can you buy under $35k in the US anymore? I think people are really out of touch with what new cars actually cost :lol: you can option an Accord over 30k now a days. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379.md?page=5) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2015-mustang-the-new-detroit-war-isnt-all-about-horsepower/233379.md?page=7)