# 20k ish budget.  Need a year round DD.

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037>\
**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [April 6, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037 "2015-04-06T17:59:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037/41 "2015-04-10T05:11:17Z")

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> [@XwalkerX](#):
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> im not really sure im buying into that…sure the n54/n55 motors have their common issues but the n52 seems like the bulletproof workhorse of the e82/e90/e60 chassis

I’m with walker on this one, however I have only owned e46s and a G35. I would take the BMW any day over the G35, for some reason I just never felt as connected in the G35 as I do in almost any BMW I drive, hard to explain.

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037/42 "2015-04-10T07:10:46Z")

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only experience i can go back to is my 06 G35 with springs / struts, camber arms and tires… is was a much better drive than a ‘new at the time’ 2012 335i… the 335i was much faster of course.

running costs i dont think you can compare the two. Infiniti has all Nissan running gear is pretty simple and inexpensive to work on. The VQ is no less a work-horse than any BMW engine… and being NA it is of course more reliable overall.

but again, i dont think either car is being considered in this thread.

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037/43 "2015-04-10T07:53:01Z")

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I am talking about NA BMWs here.

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**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 7:55am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037/44 "2015-04-10T07:55:51Z")

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What about a G8 GT? I can deal with auto. Especially if someone can tune sport mode to have some snappy shifts. Plenty of towing power. Enough to tow a larger trailer to not need as much trunk space

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**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037/45 "2015-04-10T10:17:14Z")

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[http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4970341541.html](http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4970341541.html)

For how involved you are in Motorsport related things, pretty surprised you would want a car.

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037/46 "2015-04-10T10:19:44Z")

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for 20kish you can get 2010-2011 G37x I love mine :tup:

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**Author:** ![maxwell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/maxwell/32/6524_2.png) [@maxwell](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/maxwell)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037/47 "2015-04-10T10:29:28Z")

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They make a vehicle for what he wants. There’s a pretty well carved out space for what he’s looking for… I think it just depends on what he personally wants now…

Some of these suggestions are funny.

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**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037/48 "2015-04-10T11:29:08Z")

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> [@NYstanger](#):
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> [http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4970341541.html](http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4970341541.html)
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> For how involved you are in Motorsport related things, pretty surprised you would want a car.

:drool: no way I could drive that in the winter. I don’t need a truck enough to justify the horrible gas mileage and pressure of people trying to make me lift it, ect. Everyone of my friends has a lifted truck and big mud tires, non of them ever see more than lawn driving. $1500 in tires to wear off on pavment because it looks cool?  
No.

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**Author:** ![Jeller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jeller](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jeller)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037/49 "2015-04-10T13:40:33Z")

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This G8 GT has been for sale for a bit on CL, around the price you are talking about, bit over.  
[http://buffalo.craigslist.org/cto/4900823714.html](http://buffalo.craigslist.org/cto/4900823714.html)

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**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037/50 "2015-04-10T13:44:06Z")

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Get a Jeep Grand Cherokee…towing capable…room in the back…capable of getting frisky if you have the hemi in it and comfortable to drive if you get the limited with all the options.

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**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037/51 "2015-04-10T14:09:30Z")

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If I was going to get a jeep it would be this.  
[http://buffalo.craigslist.org/cto/4965763094.html](http://buffalo.craigslist.org/cto/4965763094.html)

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**Author:** ![2TurboZ](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/2turboz/32/7577_2.png) [@2TurboZ](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/2TurboZ)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037/52 "2015-04-10T14:13:09Z")

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Ok, so why does this thread exist? Go buy that thing

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**Author:** ![95dime](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/95dime/32/7514_2.png) [@95dime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/95dime)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037/53 "2015-04-10T15:29:45Z")

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> [@KuntryQuestTSi](#):
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> :drool: no way I could drive that in the winter. I don’t need a truck enough to justify the horrible gas mileage and pressure of people trying to make me lift it, ect. Everyone of my friends has a lifted truck and big mud tires, non of them ever see more than lawn driving. $1500 in tires to wear off on pavment because it looks cool?  
> No.

FWIW its no big deal driving a rwd truck in the winter…most rwd trucks now are averaging 20+ mpg too.  
my 20" 65k mile cooper tires were $410 shipped to my door. no need for mud tires and a lift when driving a truck.

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**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037/54 "2015-04-10T15:42:27Z")

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I drove a 2wd S10 with no weight in the bed on shit all seasons 55 miles round trip to work. Even with how bad this winter was, I didn’t struggle with the drive at all. A full size 2wd would cope with it even better so I honestly feel like if I were to buy a full size truck, I’d have no reservations getting 2wd.

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**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037/55 "2015-04-10T16:02:11Z")

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I drove a full size 2wd truck all winter. It was a blast. No problems. In fact, I left the CC at home every day. I live in Elma near ski country, so it gets pretty bad.

x…

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**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037/56 "2015-04-10T17:54:44Z")

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I ment the lighting. Way to nice to drive in the winter. I’ve had plenty of rwd stuff in the winter. Trucks just aren’t my thing.

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**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/20k-ish-budget-need-a-year-round-dd/272037/57 "2015-04-17T19:28:51Z")

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> [@Jeller](#):
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> This G8 GT has been for sale for a bit on CL, around the price you are talking about, bit over.  
> [http://buffalo.craigslist.org/cto/4900823714.html](http://buffalo.craigslist.org/cto/4900823714.html)

This guy won’t budget on price. Offered him 21k nada clean retail is 22k.

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