# 240 from the States? **URL:** \ **Category:** SON240sx Automotive\ **Created:** [December 16, 2004, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526 "2004-12-16T12:05:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ronnie416](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ronnie416/32/5480_2.png) [@ronnie416](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ronnie416)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 12:05pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/1 "2004-12-16T12:05:58Z")
I heard something about them having an auto seatbelt set up, thus making them illegal for import here. I tried searching for more info, but generally only came up with Japanese importing stuff. Does anyone know te truth behind this or is this just another rumour? ---
**Author:** ![Solarian](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/solarian/32/5514_2.png) [@Solarian](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Solarian)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/2 "2004-12-16T12:08:06Z")
It’s true, and even if you do the conversion, it’s still illegal, because you’re not allowed to modify seatbelts. ---
**Author:** ![canadiandrifter240sx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5daacb/32.png) [@canadiandrifter240sx](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/canadiandrifter240sx)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/3 "2004-12-16T12:17:27Z")
you can import them if they are 15 years old ---
**Author:** ![RD\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a88e4f/32.png) [@RD\_Man](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RD_Man)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/4 "2004-12-16T12:19:27Z")
its true but i dont understand why, my old mercury villager had auto seat belts, and those where in canada so what the difference, there really is no reason to not allow the import of any vehicle inot the country, i cant imgaine any car from any country being less safe than a motorcycle, the only reason i can see is to protect doemstic amnufactureres but its still stupid ---
**Author:** ![nocwage](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nocwage/32/5489_2.png) [@nocwage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nocwage)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/5 "2004-12-16T12:33:49Z")
It’s because the auto belts weren’t approved in Canada. They were either denied due to some aspect of the autobelts specific to the Nissan design or Nissan just figured it wasn’t worth the money to get it checked. This is also why there are NO 1991-1994 SE-Rs sold here. (sadly) ---
**Author:** ![ronnie416](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ronnie416/32/5480_2.png) [@ronnie416](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ronnie416)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/6 "2004-12-16T12:34:05Z")
There goes that bloody deal. ☹ Thanks for the info guys! ---
**Author:** ![spilner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@spilner](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spilner)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/7 "2004-12-16T13:28:19Z")
my car is a 1990, it has auto seatbelts, its from florida, its been here for 10 years. people talk shit lol… its not illegal, saturns and villagers and lots of cars had auto belts in canada. ---
**Author:** ![ronnie416](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ronnie416/32/5480_2.png) [@ronnie416](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ronnie416)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/8 "2004-12-16T13:37:08Z")
I’m bloody confused right now. HOw the hell do I verify this??? Will they even know what I’m talking about at the ministry? ---
**Author:** ![s14\_2Nv](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/s14_2nv/32/5476_2.png) [@s14\_2Nv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/s14_2Nv)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/9 "2004-12-16T13:41:27Z")
> [@spilner](#): > > my car is a 1990, it has auto seatbelts, its from florida, its been here for 10 years. people talk shit lol… its not illegal, saturns and villagers and lots of cars had auto belts in canada. It’s not the fact that the actual automatic seat belts are illegal, it’s something about the placement. This post reminds me of one very similar to this… gone to search. ---
**Author:** ![spd-dmn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spd-dmn/32/5513_2.png) [@spd-dmn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spd-dmn)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/10 "2004-12-16T15:01:28Z")
This has been discussed _ad nauseum_. It’s not the fact that they are passive restraints (auto belts) in themselves. It has to do with the location of the seatbelt anchor. In Nissans, it does not meet Standard 210 of the CMVSS. In other vehicles, it does. Spilner, as far as I’m concerned, your case was an exception and you got off lucky- customs are idiots for the most part and it’s the same reason that you see “legally” registered R33s drivin around. So, unless the vehicle is 15years or older (to the build month) at the time of import, it has to abide by RIV and Transport Canada admissability and safety regulations respectively. ---
**Author:** ![nocwage](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nocwage/32/5489_2.png) [@nocwage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nocwage)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/11 "2004-12-16T15:31:00Z")
Spilner’s car is ILLEGAL, if you want to screw him over then just report his car to the Ministry. > **[US\_vehicle\_admissibility.pdf](https://www.riv.ca/english/US_vehicle_admissibility.pdf)** > > 19.72 KB It states: Admissable NISSAN/INFINITI ALL 1989 TO 2005 MODELS EXCEPT THOSE LISTED IN THE INADMISSIBLE COLUMN Inadmissable: 1991 TO 1994 SENTRA WITH PASSIVE RESTRAINT SYSTEM 1989 TO 1991 240SX WITH PASSIVE RESTRAINT SYSTEM. 1992 240SX CONVERTIBLE (See Notes) Notes: Vehicles equipped with passive restraints do not meet CMVSS 210, seat belt anchorage location requirements. Passive restraints are identified as either a motorized upper torso restraint or door mounted 3-point restraint. [http://www.riv.ca/](http://www.riv.ca/) for more info. ---
**Author:** ![blu2fourty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@blu2fourty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/blu2fourty)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 5:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/12 "2004-12-16T17:43:13Z")
my van has auto seatbelts and its a 95 nissan quest, is that illegal? or is it only 240 auto seatbelt illegal ---
**Author:** ![ronnie416](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ronnie416/32/5480_2.png) [@ronnie416](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ronnie416)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/13 "2004-12-16T18:01:46Z")
this car is a 93…what are the differences??? ---
**Author:** ![Axlerod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8edcca/32.png) [@Axlerod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Axlerod)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 6:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/14 "2004-12-16T18:29:57Z")
> [@ronnie416](#): > > this car is a 93…what are the differences??? None. And for future reference, one question mark works as well as four 😉 **jsp3c** your quest is legal because it was made for this market and passed whatever standards they had at the time. The USDM 240SX did not, hence the manual seatbelts. ---
**Author:** ![ronnie416](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ronnie416/32/5480_2.png) [@ronnie416](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ronnie416)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/15 "2004-12-16T18:56:19Z")
> [@nocwage](#): > > Inadmissable: > 1991 TO 1994 SENTRA WITH PASSIVE > RESTRAINT SYSTEM > **1989 TO 1991** 240SX WITH PASSIVE RESTRAINT SYSTEM. > 1992 240SX CONVERTIBLE > (See Notes) > Notes: > Vehicles equipped with passive restraints do not > meet CMVSS 210, seat belt anchorage location > requirements. Passive restraints are identified as > either a motorized upper torso restraint or door > mounted 3-point restraint. > > [http://www.riv.ca/](http://www.riv.ca/) for more info. Am I supposed to believe this or should it have been updated? ---
**Author:** ![nocwage](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/nocwage/32/5489_2.png) [@nocwage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/nocwage)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/16 "2004-12-16T19:32:31Z")
Just call them and they will tell you. The number is on the website I put at the bottom ---
**Author:** ![Axlerod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8edcca/32.png) [@Axlerod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Axlerod)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/17 "2004-12-16T19:42:53Z")
> [@ronnie416](#): > > [quote=nocwage]Inadmissable: > 1991 TO 1994 SENTRA WITH PASSIVE > RESTRAINT SYSTEM > **1989 TO 1991** 240SX WITH PASSIVE RESTRAINT SYSTEM. > 1992 240SX CONVERTIBLE > (See Notes) > Notes: > Vehicles equipped with passive restraints do not > meet CMVSS 210, seat belt anchorage location > requirements. Passive restraints are identified as > either a motorized upper torso restraint or door > mounted 3-point restraint. > > [http://www.riv.ca/](http://www.riv.ca/) for more info. Am I supposed to believe this or should it have been updated?[/quote] Of course you are supposed to believe it, it’s the law. the RIV is contracted by the gov’t to keep track of imported cars. ---
**Author:** ![ronnie416](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ronnie416/32/5480_2.png) [@ronnie416](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ronnie416)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/18 "2004-12-16T19:51:02Z")
It just doesn’t make sense as you’re telling me there is no diference…on that link i clearly states (I highlighted it) that only 1989- 1991 cars were inadmissable. Am I blind? ---
**Author:** ![Axlerod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8edcca/32.png) [@Axlerod](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Axlerod)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2004, 7:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/19 "2004-12-16T19:59:46Z")
> [@ronnie416](#): > > It just doesn’t make sense as you’re telling me there is no diference…on that link i clearly states (I highlighted it) that only 1989- 1991 cars were inadmissable. > > Am I blind? Maybe give them a call. The reason for it is the seatbelts, and the 1992-1993 have the same thing. Maybe you’re right and it’s just an error… or maybe they’ll let you bring it in on account of their mistake (so long as you dont tell them about it) ---
**Author:** ![spilner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@spilner](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/spilner)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2004, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526/20 "2004-12-17T08:47:54Z")
> [@nocwage](#): > > Spilner’s car is ILLEGAL, if you want to screw him over then just report his car to the Ministry. > > [http://www.riv.ca/english/US\_vehicle\_admissibility.pdf](http://www.riv.ca/english/US_vehicle_admissibility.pdf) > > It states: > Admissable > NISSAN/INFINITI ALL 1989 TO 2005 MODELS > EXCEPT THOSE LISTED IN THE > INADMISSIBLE COLUMN > > Inadmissable: > 1991 TO 1994 SENTRA WITH PASSIVE > RESTRAINT SYSTEM > 1989 TO 1991 240SX WITH PASSIVE > RESTRAINT SYSTEM. > 1992 240SX CONVERTIBLE > (See Notes) > Notes: > Vehicles equipped with passive restraints do not > meet CMVSS 210, seat belt anchorage location > requirements. Passive restraints are identified as > either a motorized upper torso restraint or door > mounted 3-point restraint. > > [http://www.riv.ca/](http://www.riv.ca/) for more info. OH… SHITBALLS! ah well just dont tell on me haha. the cops will never figure it out, i’ll do the conversion and nobody will know the diff. but hey, if its illegal how it is, i might as well do the 4 point harnesses eh. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/240-from-the-states/82526.md?page=2)