# 27 dead in school shooting **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Off Topic\ **Created:** [December 14, 2012, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750 "2012-12-14T10:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 5:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/221 "2012-12-15T17:30:39Z")
> [@Shreks boosted GSR Build](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/shreks-boosted-gsr-build/32325/318): > > I just hope it doesn’t get blown over like oh well just another school shooting what’s for diner. How many of the ones that happened this year do _you_ remember? > **[Sixteen US Mass Shootings Happened in 2012, Leaving at Least 88 Dead](https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/sixteen-us-mass-shootings-happened-2012-leaving-least-88-dead/)** > > Indiscriminate gun violence happened at a wide variety of different places—the only thing predicable is the frequency.  These things get forgotten about within a month or less. Nobody is even talking about the shooting 4 days ago in a mall because the media has a shiny new massacre to cover with more sensational headlines and more casualties. :ponder ---
**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/222 "2012-12-15T17:31:02Z")
> [@Shreks boosted GSR Build](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/shreks-boosted-gsr-build/32325/318): > > I have never been against guns in my life. I hunt I enjoy shooting targets. I own a pistol and a rifle. > > I just think it needs to be controlled. If you can say it is and truly feel that way I’m sorry i just cant agree. 20 dead kids. Fucking 20! > > You know for target shooting you could buy a bushmaster carbon 15 .22. Just as fun cheaper ammo. If this guy would have went into the school with one of those you would have wounded and less dead. > > I just hope it doesn’t get blown over like oh well just another school shooting what’s for diner. > > Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Wrong. Virginia Tech was done with a Walther P22. A .22 caliber 10-round magazine pistol as well as a glock. Yes guns need to be out of the hands of the mentally ill. I agree there. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/223 "2012-12-15T17:34:32Z")
> [@The War on terror](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/the-war-on-terror/51278/10): > > Yes. I know the clear cut definition between an assault rifle, a machine gun, and a semi automatic weapon that may be able to carry 20-30 rounds in a single magazine. > > [edited for brevity]… I agree 100%, I was just merely picking at the Assault Weapon comment. I \<3 my AR too but I won’t pretend that it wasnt a military designed rifle I own, that’s half the reason I like it and it’s such a great gun. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it, I’m completely against idiots and crazy people with guns. They are always the problem. Sane people don’t do this, but get punished for the actions of the insane. It’s unfair no matter how you spin it. ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/224 "2012-12-15T17:41:54Z")
> [@On another topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/51152/173): > > I agree 100%, I was just merely picking at the Assault Weapon comment. I \<3 my AR too but I won’t pretend that it was a military designed rifle I own, that’s half the reason I like it and it’s such a great gun. > > I’ve said it before and I’ll say it, I’m completely against idiots and crazy people with guns. They are always the problem. Sane people don’t do this, but get punished for the actions of the insane. It’s unfair no matter how you spin it. EXACTLY! Thank you. The assault weapon definition will always be twisted but the clear cut thing is if it cannot fire off multiple rounds with a single trigger movement as well as have semi auto capabilities, then it’s not an assault weapon. Thus the AR15. Machine guns are full auto 100% but still get classed into assault weapons. Technicalities. But yes, it’s the wacko’s not the guns. Wackos can still kill people without guns. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 5:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/225 "2012-12-15T17:49:13Z")
> [@New DD - 2002 WRX](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-dd-2002-wrx/51280/3): > > EXACTLY! Thank you. > > The assault weapon definition will always be twisted but the clear cut thing is if it cannot fire off multiple rounds with a single trigger movement as well as have semi auto capabilities, then it’s not an assault weapon. Thus the AR15. Machine guns are full auto 100% but still get classed into assault weapons. Technicalities. > > But yes, it’s the wacko’s not the guns. Wackos can still kill people without guns. Er, meant to say “wasn’t”… Either way, moot point. Edit: > H. Wayne Carver, the Chief Connecticut State Medical Examiner, just held a press conference to explain the findings of his examination. He determined that the cause of death for all of the victims was by gunshot wound, he classified all of the deaths as homicides. “ **I believe everybody was hit more than once** ,” he told reporters. ---
**Author:** ![MclarenGP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@MclarenGP](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MclarenGP)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/226 "2012-12-15T19:58:13Z")
so HOW did the medical examiner claim after autopsy these kids were killed with a shotgun, yet numerous reports say he entered with 2 handguns and the shotgun in the car??? ---
**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/227 "2012-12-15T20:29:23Z")
> [@Ivana Trump's yacht in Buffalo Harbor UPDATE: \*Now with pics\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ivana-trumps-yacht-in-buffalo-harbor-update-now-with-pics/51282/2): > > so HOW did the medical examiner claim after autopsy these kids were killed with a shotgun, yet numerous reports say he entered with 2 handguns and the shotgun in the car??? Im waiting until everything is released. The news has fucked this entire incident up so bad I don’t know what happened besides 28 people died. I read he posted he was going to do this in 4Chan now. We might as well keep going with the blame game, its almost come full circle now. ---
**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/228 "2012-12-15T20:31:07Z")
An FUCK all these Facebook posts about god and religion not being in school. Go to a private school if you want your kids to be brainwashed. Fucking disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![DeathbyRT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deathbyrt/32/6648_2.png) [@DeathbyRT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeathbyRT)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/229 "2012-12-15T20:31:59Z")
Its gods fault. Santa claus told the easter bunny that this dude was on the shit list for christmas. Satan and god had a discussion and both agreed that freddy kruger was going to be guiding santas sleigh for christmas and that pjb is marrying a black lady. ---
**Author:** ![DeathbyRT](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/deathbyrt/32/6648_2.png) [@DeathbyRT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/DeathbyRT)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2012, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/230 "2012-12-15T20:32:52Z")
About sums up things and the sense any of the posts people are making. ---
**Author:** ![88slowmarro](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/88slowmarro/32/6339_2.png) [@88slowmarro](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/88slowmarro)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2012, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/231 "2012-12-16T06:50:56Z")
Just saying , myself and my dad have used a .223 for dear . I’m very confident in my aim and have never had to shoot more than once to drop . My father was army , ranger to be exact , my cousin marine also special forces uses a .22 for close proximity shoots cause while close and in the right spot a .22 will destroy shit cause it ain’t got the power to go thru a human. Point in story really is ,take a .22 and shoot someone in the head ! It will have the power to go in but not come out , what does that equal ? A shredded brain cause the bullet is gonna richochet all over inside .so caliber bears no issue on anything … ---
**Author:** ![ds50r](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ds50r/32/3491_2.png) [@ds50r](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ds50r)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2012, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/232 "2012-12-16T09:36:01Z")
“False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; what would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils, except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm those only who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, the most important of the code, will respect the less important and arbitrary ones, which can be violated with impunity, and which, if strictly obeyed, would put an end to personal liberty - so dear to men, so dear to the enlightened legislator - and subject innocent persons to all the vexations that the guilty alone ought to suffer? Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man… They ought to be designated as laws not preventive but fearful of crimes, produced by the impression of a few isolated facts, and not by thoughtful consideration of the inconveniences and advantages of a universal decree.” This was translated from On Crimes and Punishment, written in 1764 by Cesare Beccaria. That passage was quoted, in it’s entirety, by Thomas Jefferson in his Commonplace Book. ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2012, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/233 "2012-12-16T10:15:42Z")
Just read this tidbit of info on CNN: > “What we know is he shot his way into the building. He was not buzzed in,” Malloy said. “He penetrated the building by literally shooting an entrance into the building. That’s what an assault weapon can do for you.” … What? No one called the police when he was shooting the building? If he was using an AR, he’d have to be there for a WHILE to get enough holes to get inside. ---
**Author:** ![love4boost](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/love4boost/32/6658_2.png) [@love4boost](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/love4boost)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2012, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/234 "2012-12-16T11:00:33Z")
> [@NYSpeed / OSYN Track Days 2008 \[Next Day: Sept 13th\] \*NEW: Track Timing System!\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-osyn-track-days-2008-next-day-sept-13th-new-track-timing-system/44963/289): > > Ask him what? I could care less who your friend was. Don’t buy guns if you don’t support them. Black and white, cut and dry. If there are stolen guns or potentially illegal weapons I would hope he would have confiscated the weapon and not “let it go back” without doing anything. Is that the problem in America we’re discussing right now, ignorance with firearms? Damir came in with his friend and his friend bought it… Rifle was not stolen and he even admitted that… What I think happened was I sold it for like $400-500 and he regretted it so he made that up that it came up sketchy… He didnt give me a reason or explanation of what was wrong with it when he ran it, just told me that “it was involved in something but idk” and i took it back… ---
**Author:** ![KillerBlackbird](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/killerblackbird/32/6525_2.png) [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/235 "2012-12-16T14:11:03Z")
> [@Ivana Trump's yacht in Buffalo Harbor UPDATE: \*Now with pics\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ivana-trumps-yacht-in-buffalo-harbor-update-now-with-pics/51282/17): > > Damir came in with his friend and his friend bought it… Rifle was not stolen and he even admitted that… What I think happened was I sold it for like $400-500 and he regretted it so he made that up that it came up sketchy… He didnt give me a reason or explanation of what was wrong with it when he ran it, just told me that “it was involved in something but idk” and i took it back… Oh I know, I was just trying to prove a point. If someone is against guns they shouldn’t be buying or helping others buy them. Not calling you out for anything or making an example. That’s always an issue, someone feels like they got fucked and paid too much. ---
**Author:** ![Cossey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/236 "2012-12-16T14:29:09Z")
> [@New DD - 2002 WRX](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-dd-2002-wrx/51280/13): > > Oh I know, I was just trying to prove a point. If someone is against guns they shouldn’t be buying or helping others buy them. Not calling you out for anything or making an example. > > That’s always an issue, someone feels like they got fucked and paid too much. Not only that, but if you’re a cop and you thing a gun is involved with some crime, you don’t exactly just bring it back to where you bought it. Aren’t cops supposed to be keeping “illegal” guns off streets? Not putting them back on. ---
**Author:** ![d\_gage](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/d_gage/32/6321_2.png) [@d\_gage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d_gage)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/237 "2012-12-16T15:42:38Z")
> [@New DD - 2002 WRX](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/new-dd-2002-wrx/51280/14): > > Not only that, but if you’re a cop and you thing a gun is involved with some crime, you don’t exactly just bring it back to where you bought it. Aren’t cops supposed to be keeping “illegal” guns off streets? Not putting them back on. Exactly what i was thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Boxersix](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/boxersix/32/6327_2.png) [@Boxersix](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Boxersix)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2012, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/238 "2012-12-16T17:21:28Z")
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**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 4:46am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/239 "2012-12-17T04:46:00Z")
One thing nobody is talking about is that an avid gun owner let her unstable child have easy access to her own guns. Isn’t this a gun owners fallacy - to be killed by your own weapon? Shouldn’t gun owners be mad at her and other irresponsible gun owners? :ponder ---
**Author:** ![madwabbit](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/madwabbit/32/6654_2.png) [@madwabbit](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/madwabbit)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2012, 5:10am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/240 "2012-12-17T05:10:59Z")
> [@Ivana Trump's yacht in Buffalo Harbor UPDATE: \*Now with pics\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ivana-trumps-yacht-in-buffalo-harbor-update-now-with-pics/51282/23): > > One thing nobody is talking about is that an avid gun owner let her unstable child have easy access to her own guns. > > Shouldn’t gun owners be mad at her and other irresponsible gun owners? FUCK YES. I don’t give 2 fucks about changing gun laws. Or how many bumpkins run out and arm themselves the day after a massacre. I don’t care that he used assault rifles…handguns…bubble gum wrapper or a pen spring. Anyone that has guns NOT in a locked up safe…or trigger locked…is ignorant as fuck. Those guns were HERS…they were her responsibility. Her son was fucked in the head and she thought it was a good idea to : 1. Purchase him guns or 2. Leave guns unlocked and accessible Both equally as fucked up. Buying guns and leaving them on your dining room table isn’t going to make your little penis grow. I thought about it all day yesterday, after reading all the threads on this forum AND MANY OTHER forums…I no long want to be associated with the average gun owner. FS posting to follow. I wasn’t going to weigh in on this thread. I am part of the minority with my “liberal” thoughts of gun safety on this forum. I understand a few points that have been made about assault rifles and have learned some good things with this thread. ``` I feel like Vlad can read my mind..I've been baited into a stoning. ``` What I don’t understand is the overwhelming need to go out in a fucking panic and purchase ALLLL THE GUN PARTS. This event does not signify the end of the world. This event is not going to raise the chances of an intruder in your home …from .00001% to .00002%). Just coated myself in Vaseline…GO! [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750.md?page=13)