# 27 dead in school shooting
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**Category:** Shift518 Off Topic
**Created:** [December 14, 2012, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750 "2012-12-14T10:01:55Z")
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### Author:  [@Sully93vr4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sully93vr4)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:02pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/161 "2012-12-15T13:02:41Z")
> [@Glove review + near death exp. thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/glove-review-near-death-exp-thread/51253/33):
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> Why did you purchase a gun from a pawn shop recently?
^ :crackup
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### Author:  [@JoeD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoeD)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/162 "2012-12-15T13:09:13Z")
> [@"I almost died" threads are for squids.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-almost-died-threads-are-for-squids/51279/2):
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> How about Brazil?
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> 35,000 firearm murders in 2008 (last known statistic year)
> Less than 200,000,000 people.
> 18.1 firearm homicide rate per 100k people.
> Banned most private firearm ownership.
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> US:
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> 9,100 firearm murders in 2009
> Over 300,000,000 people
> 2.98 firearm homicide rate per 100k people.
> Gun ownership is mostly free.
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> Switzerland:
> 40 firearm murders in 2010
> Under 8,000,000 people
> .52 firearm homicide rate per 100k people.
> Require firearm ownership for males 20-30. Also allows them to take home their legit assault rifles they use in the military.
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> Kennesaw, Georgia:
> 0 firearm murders (actually, murders in general) over the last 25 years.
> 30,000 people.
> 0 firearm homicide rate per 100k people
> Consistently rated one of safest towns in US.
> Requires every home to have a firearm (doesn’t matter type) for protection in case police don’t make it in time.
Brazil is filled with narco trafficking = more violence then we will ever see.
Switzerland = they are required to do military service and gun safety is requirement. You train every us citizen how to handle and respect a weapon I’m good.
I don’t think Kennesaw, GA is a good statistic. I mean would you want that same law in Detroit? It would be anarchy
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### Author:  [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/163 "2012-12-15T13:12:03Z")
> [@Anyone got an Evo X?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/anyone-got-an-evo-x/51196/43):
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> Brazil is filled with narco trafficking = more violence then we will ever see.
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> Switzerland = they are required to do military service and gun safety is requirement. You train every us citizen how to handle and respect a weapon I’m good.
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> I don’t think Kennesaw, GA is a good statistic. I mean would you want that same law in Detroit? It would be anarchy
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Why would it be anarchy?
Until you find statistics to prove what I’m saying is wrong, you shouldn’t continue this argument.
I would LOVE for every US citizen to be trained in firearms, but lets be realistic, it’ll never happen. Our best bet as firearm owners is teach others proper safety, and continue spreading that. THAT will prevent more crime and stop accidental deaths better than any firearm laws will.
I’ve introduced about five people to shooting over the past two years, and at least one of them hated guns before then. Now they look forward to shooting.
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### Author:  [@JoeD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoeD)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/164 "2012-12-15T13:14:16Z")
> [@Glove review + near death exp. thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/glove-review-near-death-exp-thread/51253/33):
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> Why did you purchase a gun from a pawn shop recently?
I think he understands that I don’t want to ban all guns just certain types. You see my rifle only holds 3 rounds. An assault weapon can hold 20. If dude goes into a mall and start shooting what would you want him to have? It’s mitigating the risk of the potential for a higher casualty rate.
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### Author:  [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/165 "2012-12-15T13:15:33Z")
> [@\*Official\* Shredd & Reagan Cruise Night Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shredd-reagan-cruise-night-thread/47806/520):
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> I think he understands that I don’t want to ban all guns just certain types. You see my rifle only holds 3 rounds. An assault weapon can hold 20. If dude goes into a mall and start shooting what would you want him to have? It’s mitigating the risk of the potential for a higher casualty rate.
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There is no set capacity for any type of firearm. An M1A isn’t an “assault weapon” yet it can hold 20 rounds.
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### Author:  [@aero93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/aero93)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/166 "2012-12-15T13:16:43Z")
> [@Glove review + near death exp. thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/glove-review-near-death-exp-thread/51253/33):
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> Why did you purchase a gun from a pawn shop recently?
Lol wasn’t me it was a friend that I brought to Dave’s shop and he purchased and looked it up with state police and found an issue so he returned it. Fee free to verify with Dave.
I hate weapons in anyone other then law enforcement or military hands because they are often uneducated about the weapon and think its a cool item to own until something goes terribly wrong with it while cleaning or whatever.
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### Author:  [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/167 "2012-12-15T13:21:59Z")
> [@\*Official\* Shredd & Reagan Cruise Night Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shredd-reagan-cruise-night-thread/47806/520):
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> I think he understands that I don’t want to ban all guns just certain types. You see my rifle only holds 3 rounds. An assault weapon can hold 20. If dude goes into a mall and start shooting what would you want him to have? It’s mitigating the risk of the potential for a higher casualty rate.
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Give me 5 10 round magazines and add the literal 2 seconds in for a quick mag change versus the 50 round magazine in my TEC9.
I press a button, magazine drops, new one slides in, release, round is chambered.
Outlaw everything but “sporting” rifles. Shot guns will still make a mess. Shooters move to sniper style shooting with bolt action rifles. How long did the DC Sniper terrorize that region, firing one shot each time?
Or should we factor in three 5 round magazines and double the people shooting to two?
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### Author:  [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/168 "2012-12-15T13:26:50Z")
If no one is armed and everyone is too scared to fight back then it doesn’t make a difference how many rounds you can hold.
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### Author:  [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/169 "2012-12-15T13:28:29Z")
> [@Random Picture Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/random-picture-thread/34324/403):
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> Lol wasn’t me it was a friend that I brought to Dave’s shop and he purchased and looked it up with state police and found an issue so he returned it. Fee free to verify with Dave.
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> I hate weapons in anyone other then law enforcement or military hands because they are often uneducated about the weapon and think its a cool item to own until something goes terribly wrong with it while cleaning or whatever.
Something going wrong while cleaning?
Have you ever shot or cleaned a firearm? If you aren’t absolutely stupid, you’ll never encounter any sort of issue with it while “cleaning or whatever.”
So much ignorance ITT.
:skid
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### Author:  [@91teg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91teg)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/170 "2012-12-15T13:28:30Z")
> [@wtb car 1000 or under](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/wtb-car-1000-or-under/51275/2):
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> I own a gun a 30-06 it’s bolt action and used for hunting only never loaded except when hunting. I’ve been hunting since I was 11. So I’m not scared at all. Plus I’ve ran 50 cal machine gun to M19 ranges I think I’m well qualified on safe operation and handling of firearms.
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> As for you brain buster.
> In 2009 America had 9,000 gun deaths.
> The UK a ban country had maybe 40.
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> I think per-capita it would be more like.
> US 9000
> UK 3000
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> Your right we need way more guns.
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Dude what did you do in the military. You definitely wernt combat arms. Your a moron and I bet you have only seen what assault rifles do to card board silhouettes. Go watch some more hellfires on YouTube. :Idiots
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### Author:  [@KillerBlackbird](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KillerBlackbird)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/171 "2012-12-15T13:29:36Z")
> [@Random Picture Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/random-picture-thread/34324/403):
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> Lol wasn’t me it was a friend that I brought to Dave’s shop and he purchased and looked it up with state police and found an issue so he returned it. Fee free to verify with Dave.
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> I hate weapons in anyone other then law enforcement or military hands because they are often uneducated about the weapon and think its a cool item to own until something goes terribly wrong with it while cleaning or whatever.
[http://shift518.com/showthread.php?t=32436](http://shift518.com/showthread.php?t=32436)
> [@beard triming ....](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/beard-triming/51183/14):
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> Just wondering for future gun purchases, how do I check if a gun is stolen or been involved in a crime? I bought one a while back and sold it to Damir and he later told me it was involved in some sort of crime or some shit so I had to give him his money back… Want to avoid this happening again.
Often the uneducated gun owner is the one that will have an issue, such as preparing the gun for cleaning. If a gun can fire a round while disassembled you have other problems.
Maybe no one should support private sales or purchases or aid in them if they disapprove. Maybe that’s a larger issue than legal gun ownership?
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### Author:  [@imported\_hybrdthry91](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_hybrdthry91)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/172 "2012-12-15T13:33:15Z")
> [@\*Official\* Shredd & Reagan Cruise Night Thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/official-shredd-reagan-cruise-night-thread/47806/515):
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> **The only reason an assault rifle exists is to kill people period.** If you think they were made for sport your as blind as a bat. If you feel you are safer and more of a man with one get your asses down to the recruiters office.
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> I would say 98% have never seen what damage an assault rifle can do except in pictures. Or have seen how it effects a wife and family.
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> **Your freedom to have a weapon that you have no real need for is not worth a single child’s life.**
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> Exactly were do you think all illegally obtained weapons come from? 10% are stolen and the other are obtained via straw purchases. That is when I take my buddy into to store he buys it I use it. These are facts not make believe ask a cop.
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I think no life lived without freedom is worth living. So I think by denying our freedom and these children’s freedoms you have already taken their life from them.
And what is wrong with owning a gun that is intended to kill people? Forget home invasions, forget hunting, and sport…the reason they even implemented the second amendment wasn’t for those things anyway. We need the second amendment more than ever. It exists to protect the people, and keep the power in the peoples hands, not the criminals or the government.
> [@FS: Amp subs and wiring kit new 85$](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-amp-subs-and-wiring-kit-new-85/50448/16):
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> Sad world we live in when people think fun toys are more important then human life.
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> Also sad that things like this have to exist.
> [BulletBlocker Bulletproof Backpacks](http://www.bulletblocker.com/bullet-proof-backpack-shield.html)
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If you think of a gun as a Toy then you should get serious about this conversation because everyone else in here is. The problem here is that you think you have the right to take another man’s firearm away when you don’t. This right is not given to us by the constitution it is just protected by it. Government can’t give you freedom you are born with it, and it is out job to protect it even if pussies like you won’t.
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### Author:  [@Cossey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Cossey)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/173 "2012-12-15T13:37:59Z")
> [@Biggest Douche? You decide.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/biggest-douche-you-decide/51006/28):
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> Dude what did you do in the military. You definitely wernt combat arms. Your a moron and I bet you have only seen what assault rifles do to card board silhouettes. Go watch some more hellfires on YouTube. :Idiots
EVERY friend of mine who has any military experience fully believes in a citizen’s right to own any firearm.
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### Author:  [@JoeD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoeD)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/174 "2012-12-15T13:38:56Z")
> [@Biggest Douche? You decide.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/biggest-douche-you-decide/51006/28):
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> Dude what did you do in the military. You definitely wernt combat arms. Your a moron and I bet you have only seen what assault rifles do to card board silhouettes. Go watch some more hellfires on YouTube. :Idiots
Commo guy. Well first I was in 11th Aviation 6-6 Air Cav. Then 10th Mountain 2-14 Infantry. Everywhere they went I went. You want to come read my DD214 and my combat action badge write up for when I took close fire from an RPG?
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### Author:  [@JoeD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoeD)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/175 "2012-12-15T13:42:35Z")
> [@am i racist for finding humor in this ?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/am-i-racist-for-finding-humor-in-this/51040/18):
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> EVERY friend of mine who has any military experience fully believes in a citizen’s right to own any firearm.
That’s the best part about this country we are entitled to our personal views and do not have to follow the trends.
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### Author:  [@JoeD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoeD)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/176 "2012-12-15T13:49:00Z")
> [@KTM promo vids give me a raging hard on (super duke and RC8 content inside)](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ktm-promo-vids-give-me-a-raging-hard-on-super-duke-and-rc8-content-inside/51233/9):
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> I think no life lived without freedom is worth living. So I think by denying our freedom and these children’s freedoms you have already taken their life from them.
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> And what is wrong with owning a gun that is intended to kill people? Forget home invasions, forget hunting, and sport…the reason they even implemented the second amendment wasn’t for those things anyway. We need the second amendment more than ever. It exists to protect the people, and keep the power in the peoples hands, not the criminals or the government.
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> If you think of a gun as a Toy then you should get serious about this conversation because everyone else in here is. The problem here is that you think you have the right to take another man’s firearm away when you don’t. This right is not given to us by the constitution it is just protected by it. Government can’t give you freedom you are born with it, and it is out job to protect it even if pussies like you won’t.
^^^ umm that’s not a toy it’s a real protection device.
I’m a pussy cuz I don’t like assault weapons ? Ha ha ha ha ha. That’s awesome lets resort to calling me pussy.
I think we are having a healthy debate and it needs to be talked about in this country.
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### Author:  [@JoeD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoeD)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/177 "2012-12-15T13:55:40Z")
Please someone give me one good reason you need an assault weapon that can’t be made up for with a hunting rifle, shotgun, or pistol?
Please a real reason not some bs about my rights.
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### Author:  [@Sully93vr4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sully93vr4)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/178 "2012-12-15T13:59:06Z")
> [@Glove review + near death exp. thread](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/glove-review-near-death-exp-thread/51253/38):
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> Please someone give me one good reason you need an assault weapon that can’t be made up for with a hunting rifle, shotgun, or pistol?
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> Please a real reason not some bs about my rights.
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Because I fucking want one. :ohnoes
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### Author:  [@JoeD](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/JoeD)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/179 "2012-12-15T14:01:11Z")
> [@NYSpeed / OSYN Track Days 2008 \[Next Day: Sept 13th\] \*NEW: Track Timing System!\*](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/nyspeed-osyn-track-days-2008-next-day-sept-13th-new-track-timing-system/44963/286):
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> Because I fucking want one. :ohnoes
LOL !
So Cossey is the only one I can say has brought good shit to my attention. C’mon dudes! Be like Cossey
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### Author:  [@91teg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/91teg)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/27-dead-in-school-shooting/265750/180 "2012-12-15T14:01:38Z")
> [@Too many smilies?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/too-many-smilies/51255/22):
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> Commo guy. Well first I was in 11th Aviation 6-6 Air Cav. Then 10th Mountain 2-14 Infantry. Everywhere they went I went. You want to come read my DD214 and my combat action badge write up for when I took close fire from an RPG?
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You were an attachment. Exactly what cossey said. Citizens have the right to own fire arms. And oh by the way im an actual Infantrymen not an attachment. :excited
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