# 2wd yamaha R1 **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [July 13, 2009, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463 "2009-07-13T07:01:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Skurge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skurge/32/7285_2.png) [@Skurge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skurge)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 7:01am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/1 "2009-07-13T07:01:38Z")
here’s the yamaha link > **[2wd-r1\_F8\_Brightcove\_wide](http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1119137831?bctid=28718232001)** > > 2wd-r1\_F8\_Brightcove\_wide pretty dam neat imo…they also say better gas mileage with this one couch airbag lol… > **[Funny Videos, Funny Clips & Funny Pictures | Break.com](http://www.break.com/)** > > Watch funny videos and video clips at Break.com. Our editors find the best funny videos, clips and pictures for you to watch right now. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/2 "2009-07-13T07:07:21Z")
> [@Skurge"](#): > > [http://www.break.com/index/couch-airbag-explosion-surprise.html](http://www.break.com/index/couch-airbag-explosion-surprise.html) > > pretty dam neat imo…they also say better gas mileage with this one Lol at that link… OMG couch airbag. ---
**Author:** ![Skurge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skurge/32/7285_2.png) [@Skurge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skurge)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/3 "2009-07-13T07:16:42Z")
lol wrong link HAHA one sec ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/4 "2009-07-13T07:17:11Z")
hahahaha couch airbag… im dying here laughing… that haddddddddd to hurt so badly ---
**Author:** ![Skurge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skurge/32/7285_2.png) [@Skurge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skurge)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 7:19am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/5 "2009-07-13T07:19:44Z")
> [@Willybeen](#): > > hahahaha couch airbag… im dying here laughing… that haddddddddd to hurt so badly fixed now… ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 7:31am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/6 "2009-07-13T07:31:21Z")
Neat, but so many things scream out to me as a problem. Under WOT, a lot of bikes have limited contact with the ground, also, I just dont see a need to have power to the front tire… braking is accomplished 70%+ from the front… i dont have time to type this… it just seems like a waste. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/7 "2009-07-13T07:32:44Z")
Pretty sweet, but the riding part of the video doesn’t show a lot… Would like to see track times compared. ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 7:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/8 "2009-07-13T07:34:17Z")
> [@Willybeen](#): > > Neat, but so many things scream out to me as a problem. > > Under WOT, a lot of bikes have limited contact with the ground, also, I just dont see a need to have power to the front tire… braking is accomplished 70%+ from the front… > > i dont have time to type this… it just seems like a waste. Will, when you add driving force to the front wheel, it will actually keep the front end on the ground more, because it will decrease the net moment about the center of gravity. You’re just SO used to diving RWD bikes that it’s hard to realize… ---
**Author:** ![Skurge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skurge/32/7285_2.png) [@Skurge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skurge)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 7:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/9 "2009-07-13T07:41:34Z")
> [@newman](#): > > Will, when you add driving force to the front wheel, it will actually keep the front end on the ground more, because it will decrease the net moment about the center of gravity. You’re just SO used to diving RWD bikes that it’s hard to realize… someone said something about the gyro of the front wheel keeping it down a bit also…not sure if that is true meant once it lifts the slightest bit, it tries to put it back down ---
**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/10 "2009-07-13T07:58:32Z")
> [@newman](#): > > Will, when you add driving force to the front wheel, it will actually keep the front end on the ground more, because it will decrease the net moment about the center of gravity. You’re just SO used to diving RWD bikes that it’s hard to realize… bingo. One problem I see is getting too much power in a turn. Sure you can drift a bike and keep control, but I wouldn’t want to be leaning into a turn and have BOTH tires break loose. ---
**Author:** ![somedude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@somedude](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/somedude)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/11 "2009-07-13T08:34:56Z")
> [@Paulo](#): > > bingo. > > One problem I see is getting too much power in a turn. Sure you can drift a bike and keep control, but I wouldn’t want to be leaning into a turn and have BOTH tires break loose. just imagine how amazing that picture would look if you pulled it off. ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/12 "2009-07-13T08:49:35Z")
i dont feel like typing my response right now, i bet track times are slower with the same rider. ---
**Author:** ![Spam16v](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/spam16v/32/5287_2.png) [@Spam16v](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Spam16v)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 9:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/13 "2009-07-13T09:11:49Z")
> [@Willybeen](#): > > i dont feel like typing my response right now, i bet track times are slower with the same rider. depending on conditions and rider experience with the system. once someone knows how to take advantage of the added traction, and if the situation allows i bet it would accell. but yeah, out of the box, back to back, it’d probably suck. ---
**Author:** ![NYstanger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6a8cbe/32.png) [@NYstanger](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/NYstanger)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/14 "2009-07-13T09:42:18Z")
This kind of system would kick ass on a dirt bike. ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 9:44am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/15 "2009-07-13T09:44:50Z")
i disagree… it would cause serious washouts of the front end… allllll the time. ---
**Author:** ![Skurge](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/skurge/32/7285_2.png) [@Skurge](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Skurge)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 10:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/16 "2009-07-13T10:16:55Z")
> [@Willybeen](#): > > i disagree… it would cause serious washouts of the front end… allllll the time. yea around turns your front would spin also, bad news i’d bet though if the power was split like 70-30 then maybe it would work better? ---
**Author:** ![Oasis24-7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c89c15/32.png) [@Oasis24-7](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Oasis24-7)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/17 "2009-07-13T12:18:54Z")
> [@Skurge](#): > > yea around turns your front would spin also, bad news i’d bet > > though if the power was split like 70-30 then maybe it would work better? thats exactly what i think ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/18 "2009-07-13T12:36:44Z")
> [@newman](#): > > Will, when you add driving force to the front wheel, it will actually keep the front end on the ground more, because it will decrease the net moment about the center of gravity. You’re just SO used to diving RWD bikes that it’s hard to realize… kind of like watching a mustang, and sti launch with the same horsepower… ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/19 "2009-07-13T12:36:55Z")
even 70/30 would be a little much i’d imagine under any serious power/esp if traction up front was an issue. Ie. dirtbike. lol ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2009, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463/20 "2009-07-13T12:39:06Z")
I bet it could be made to be totally awesome. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/2wd-yamaha-r1/70463.md?page=2)