# 3.1 swap into 1997 Cavalier

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114>\
**Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [December 30, 2006, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114 "2006-12-30T16:17:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
**Page:** 1

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![85StangGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/278dde/32.png) [@85StangGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/85StangGT)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114/1 "2006-12-30T16:17:31Z")

</div>

hi. im thinkin of swapping a 3.1 motor out of a beretta (early 90’s) i believe into my 1997 cavalier… the cavi has the stock 2.2 w/ an auto transmission.the beretta is also an automatic.now im just curious if this is worth all of the work and how much i will have to put into this task. i know ill need different motor mounts. will i have to make my own or is there somewhere that sells them?Will the transmission bolt up/withstand a 3.1?etc… i tried lookin for info on this but can’t find anything. i know its been done since ive seen videos of it. if someone has any experience/knowledge that would help me out with this i would greatly appreciate it  
Thanks  
-Kevin

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114/2 "2006-12-30T16:35:52Z")

</div>

it should swap in fine. People have swapped in every form of 60 degree motor into a jbody, and even the 90 degree 3800.

check out [www.j-body.org](http://www.j-body.org) theres probably a bunch of threads with info on this swap.

but me personally, i would go with a 3400 swap over the 3.1/3100 swap (that is of course is you want to swap in a v6) if you want to just swap in any engine i would do an 2.2L ecotec, 2.4L twin cam swap or even a 2.3L quad 4 HO.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114/3 "2006-12-30T16:44:33Z")

</div>

[http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=30&i=14405&t=14405&p=1](http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=30&i=14405&t=14405&p=1)

[http://users.adelphia.net/~rdbryant1/index.html.html](http://users.adelphia.net/~rdbryant1/index.html.html)

[http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=30&i=33041&t=33041](http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=30&i=33041&t=33041)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![4doors5gears](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/4doors5gears/32/6006_2.png) [@4doors5gears](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/4doors5gears)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114/4 "2006-12-30T22:36:58Z")

</div>

it would be better to do a 3400, you’re gonna have to switch to OBDII but no big deal…

[www.bstuff.com](http://www.bstuff.com) might give you some better ideas as well, but I wouldn’t mess with a 3.1 MPFI when you can do a 3400 just as easily.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![red04cavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5fc32e/32.png) [@red04cavy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/red04cavy)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2007, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114/5 "2007-01-01T14:16:39Z")

</div>

> [@Its a sad day in the world of a ricer today](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/its-a-sad-day-in-the-world-of-a-ricer-today/26953/13):
>
> it would be better to do a 3400, you’re gonna have to switch to OBDII but no big deal…
> 
> [www.bstuff.com](http://www.bstuff.com) might give you some better ideas as well, but I wouldn’t mess with a 3.1 MPFI when you can do a 3400 just as easily.

If it is a 1997 Cavalier, it is already OBD II. 1995 was the last year they had OBD I in the Cavalier and even then, it was only in certain models.

The 3400 and 3800 SC are the 2 most common v6 swaps for a Cavalier. grandamld9’s links are probably the best place to look. Go on there and search around–a few people have done step by step write ups on how to do the swap.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2007, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114/6 "2007-01-01T14:22:11Z")

</div>

i guess i should mention, that if you go with a 2.4L twin cam or 2.2L ecotec. GM makes a supercharger kit for both motors. The one for the 2.4 is around $1,700 and the 2.2 kit is alittle bit more around something like $2,200-$2,500

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![red04cavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5fc32e/32.png) [@red04cavy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/red04cavy)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114/7 "2007-01-03T12:40:24Z")

</div>

the 2.4L has to be 2000+ for the charger to work, just so you know.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![85StangGT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/8/278dde/32.png) [@85StangGT](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/85StangGT)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114/8 "2007-01-03T12:47:17Z")

</div>

ok thanks guys for the info…ill take it all into consideration.still dunno if i wanna swap the cavi or sell it and buy a newer car

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![sunhawk08](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@sunhawk08](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sunhawk08)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114/9 "2007-01-03T12:53:51Z")

</div>

If I were you I’d make it a 3.1 with 3.4 heads and slap a turbo kit on it thats the most popular i’ve seen 12’s with people doing the swap. But also take into account you may need to change up things such as guage cluster and wiring harness and a few other things like the K member and small things like that but more then doable.Also OBDII started in 1996 in those cars.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![4doors5gears](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/4doors5gears/32/6006_2.png) [@4doors5gears](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/4doors5gears)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114/10 "2007-01-03T13:39:10Z")

</div>

I think I read it wrong, and thought about how he said 3.1 and assumed 3.1 MPFI and how that would be OBDI because any OBDII cars would be a 3100 SFI

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 2:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114/11 "2007-01-03T14:33:25Z")

</div>

> [@Train breaks rail-speed record - 357mph!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/train-breaks-rail-speed-record-357mph/27018/5):
>
> the 2.4L has to be 2000+ for the charger to work, just so you know.

not if you swap for a 00+ LD9. But yes, for a 96-99 motor you do.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![red04cavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5fc32e/32.png) [@red04cavy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/red04cavy)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114/12 "2007-01-07T20:21:57Z")

</div>

> [@Strongest Straps Ever or Really Lucky?](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/strongest-straps-ever-or-really-lucky/27014/17):
>
> not if you swap for a 00+ LD9. But yes, for a 96-99 motor you do.

I think you just restated what I said–unless I misunderstand ur post. The 2.4 and LD9 are the same thing.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114/13 "2007-01-07T22:06:45Z")

</div>

> [@Your Car needed for UB club expo!](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/your-car-needed-for-ub-club-expo/27107/6):
>
> I think you just restated what I said–unless I misunderstand ur post. The 2.4 and LD9 are the same thing.

yea my post doesnt make sense. I think what i ment to say is, the motor doesnt have to be a 00+ it can be a 96-98 motor, but then you have to add some more money to the setup to get things right (00+ starter, different injecters, HP tuners or other tuning stuff, ect.)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![red04cavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5fc32e/32.png) [@red04cavy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/red04cavy)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2007, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114/14 "2007-01-14T10:14:37Z")

</div>

right…but for the extra cash it would cost to convert, you could most likely get a 2000+ LD9 for less.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2007, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114/15 "2007-01-15T21:23:39Z")

</div>

> [@Ancient Laptop Problems Wont End...](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/ancient-laptop-problems-wont-end/27199/12):
>
> right…but for the extra cash it would cost to convert, you could most likely get a 2000+ LD9 for less.

Well if you go with a 00+ motor you have to tune it some how, and if your running the 97 ecm then youll have to buy hptuners anyways since you can use the GM flash, not to mention you have to convert to the right injectors and make the knock sensor fit on the 00+ motor. But if you want to use the 00+ ecm for the GM reflash you have to buy a new ECM and BCM plus a new cluster and so on and find a vin for a 00+ car to even get the reflash. So ether way, your going to spend more then just what the charger cost.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![red04cavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5fc32e/32.png) [@red04cavy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/red04cavy)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2007, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114/16 "2007-01-20T07:26:32Z")

</div>

Check this post out–complete with vids. It’s just sick! This has been done before and is good enough for low 13s / high 12s.

[http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=46&i=268240&t=268240](http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=46&i=268240&t=268240)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![sunhawk08](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@sunhawk08](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sunhawk08)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2007, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114/17 "2007-01-29T00:17:49Z")

</div>

thats what i was talkin about.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![grandamld9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@grandamld9](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/grandamld9)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2007, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-1-swap-into-1997-cavalier/187114/18 "2007-01-29T14:38:03Z")

</div>

> [@Greetings fellows, much obliged to make your acquaintances.](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/greetings-fellows-much-obliged-to-make-your-acquaintances/27356/17):
>
> Check this post out–complete with vids. It’s just sick! This has been done before and is good enough for low 13s / high 12s.
> 
> [http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=46&i=268240&t=268240](http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=46&i=268240&t=268240)

Theres that other guy on LBO i think his SN is raven. He was one of the first, if not the first to do the 3800 swap.
