# 3 Red Lights of Death

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**Created:** [February 14, 2008, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-red-lights-of-death/195510 "2008-02-14T17:22:09Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 8:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-red-lights-of-death/195510/20 "2008-02-15T08:13:54Z")

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> [@FS: 2000 jdm front end teg w/k20a](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2000-jdm-front-end-teg-w-k20a/32572/43):
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> Actually how Microsoft works on these is, you get your original unit back UNLESS they cannot fix a certain thing on your unit. I sent mine out after getting the lights, took 3 weeks, but got the same unit. My friend sent his out, 3 weeks passed, he calls Microsoft, they tell him they couldnt fix his unit (cant remember reason right now) and they would be sending him a unit to replace his. Ending up being a refurb of course, but still carries warranties, but no HDMI. Luck of the draw I would say.

When my launch xbox died, i had a newer build date console back in 4 days.  
The RRoD is caused by the same problem, and that is solder joints cracking due to heat and stress of the X Clamps flexing the board… i would think they would have it down to a science… shit i can fix it in 10 minutes at home.

> [@FS: 2000 jdm front end teg w/k20a](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/fs-2000-jdm-front-end-teg-w-k20a/32572/44):
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> I have never heard of anyone getting a new (HDMI) box back from warrenty repair.
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> They will first try to repair your problem - most likely by upgrading to the new cooling system they use.
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> When that doesn’t work, they swap you out with a refurb.
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> Repeat.
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> P.S. - any DRM content from Live will be broken if you get a different box back.

Theres not really a new cooling system… well there is a new heatsink unit for the GPU with a 2nd external heatsink attached via heatpipe, but it is not too effective…

There is a new heatsink on the new 65nm CPU equipped boxes, one without heatpipes, a less effective heatsink, but sufficient for the 65nm CPU’s which produce significantly less heat.

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