# 3 Red Lights of Death

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**Created:** [February 14, 2008, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-red-lights-of-death/195510 "2008-02-14T17:22:09Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 15, 2008, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3-red-lights-of-death/195510/26 "2008-02-15T09:28:42Z")

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> [@newman's secret: so pink](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/newmans-secret-so-pink/34920/53):
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> That is what I meant by cooling system. The heatsinks are the primary means of cooling and the new design they have been using in refurbs and warranty exchanges has an average of 10 - 15 degrees cooler.
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> jph - The newer boxes bought in the past few months will be of better build quality and could use the newer, cooler CPU. The GPU is the primary cause of overheating though. The only way to tell before you buy it is to check the wattage rating on the UPC sticker. I can’t remember off hand what the hi/low values for that is.

The wattage on the box is not a proper way to identify a falcon chipset.

The falcon’s PSU is 175W, while the older box is 203W… there have been people that bought a box that said 203W on it, and had a 175W power supply, and vice versa.

That 10-15 is in F of course, and i HIGHLY doubt it, if you have actually seen the addon GPU in person, there is no way it had THAT big of an impact.

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