# 335 owners are they as bad internet forums say? lol

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**Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\
**Created:** [November 14, 2013, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855 "2013-11-14T16:58:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![mike125k](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mike125k/32/7282_2.png) [@mike125k](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mike125k)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 4:30am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/21 "2013-11-15T04:30:38Z")

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I have an '07 xi and just rolled 70k this week. Knock on wood I’ve had no HPFP, injector or coil pack issues. It is due for a valve cleaning I’m sure, but that’s a direct injection thing, not specifically a N54/5 design flaw. Bought it as a non CPO car, turbos were replaced by dealer before I bought it for wastegate rattles, been fine since. Had to replace a VANOS solenoid ($110) and transfer case servo motor ($400) and that’s been it. Love the car.

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**Author:** ![ubengineering](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/ubengineering/32/5171_2.png) [@ubengineering](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ubengineering)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/22 "2013-11-15T04:48:47Z")

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I laughed at “is it worth putting up with more than avg problems for above avg performance”, there are so many nicer cars to choose from.

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**Author:** ![93dx\_hatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/9/90ced4/32.png) [@93dx\_hatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/93dx_hatch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/23 "2013-11-15T04:56:16Z")

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> [@Jeller](#):
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> I never had a hpfp fail, sold my car with the original hpfp still in it even after an upgraded lpfp and running 100% e85 flex fuel setup. It is a hit or miss with those. I think every 335 has had the injectors updated. Wastegate rattle is another issue, oil filter housing leaks after a while and carbon build up on the intake valves due to direct injection is about the most of it. If you are used to tuning a car that is easy to work with (domestic, honda, mitsu etc…) the bmw may not be fun as most things are more of a PITA. I still love the car and the power and torque in a very smooth driving car with great amenities and daily driveabilty.

Your car also only had like 50k on it…

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 5:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/24 "2013-11-15T05:29:39Z")

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It’s funny to be having a reliability convo about a car 3-4 year old car I would probably ditch before it hit 75k

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**Author:** ![sasquatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@sasquatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sasquatch)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/25 "2013-11-15T05:41:23Z")

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IMHO if you’re super worried don’t buy one.

Yea they have good performance with mods, but if it’s your DD I’d say look for reliability first, especially if you have a fast car at home already. There are plenty of other well performing cars that are likely to have less issues it seems.

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**Author:** ![Harvey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/harvey/32/5069_2.png) [@Harvey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Harvey)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 5:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/26 "2013-11-15T05:45:29Z")

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> [@LZ](#):
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> It’s funny to be having a reliability convo about a car 3-4 year old car I would probably ditch before it hit 75k

That sounds like reason enough to stay away.

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/27 "2013-11-15T06:28:31Z")

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> [@ubengineering](#):
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> I laughed at “is it worth putting up with more than avg problems for above avg performance”, there are so many nicer cars to choose from.

What car for similar price has the power, luxury, and looks?

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**Author:** ![EvoMR](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/evomr/32/7186_2.png) [@EvoMR](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/EvoMR)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 6:29am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/28 "2013-11-15T06:29:51Z")

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I was very happy with mine. I only went through 3 hpfps in 25k of ownership.

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**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Kramer)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 6:45am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/29 "2013-11-15T06:45:11Z")

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> [@EvoMR](#):
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> I was very happy with mine. I only went through 3 hpfps in 25k of ownership.

only 3

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**Author:** ![Paulo](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/paulo/32/7328_2.png) [@Paulo](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Paulo)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/30 "2013-11-15T08:00:08Z")

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It’s crazy how sporadic the reliability problems are with these cars but I’d bet that the majority of them are on the better side of it. I’ve had mine for 2.5 years. The only problems I’ve had was a coil pack that would fault out but only when running a tune and the adaptive headlight control module. (which was due to a technician messing up the headlight assembly access panel.)

If you dig into the history of the car, it should tell you whether or not it’s a problem child. But the more I see your posts about it, I’m thinking you might want to avoid the risk and go with something a little more known for reliability. Hell, you can always upgrade to an F30 a couple years down the road.

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**Author:** ![Kramer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kramer](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Kramer)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/31 "2013-11-15T08:20:32Z")

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[http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4087276997.html](http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4087276997.html)

maybe go with something like this but with a 3rd peddle

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**Author:** ![Clean\_Baldy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clean_baldy/32/7308_2.png) [@Clean\_Baldy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Clean_Baldy)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 10:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/32 "2013-11-15T10:17:50Z")

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my 2008 335XI had 3 HPFP replacements and two full swaps of injectors, as well as required a walnut blasting at 60,000 due to carbon build-up causing massive power issues in the intake manifold due to direct injection. All of that was covered by the dealership, but that was prior to CPO expiring. I traded it in at 90,000 miles and it was still running great with just one suspension bushing wearing out, which cost me $400 to fix.

I’d have kept my car, if I didn’t need some $$$ due to other reasons. The car did have a lot of warranty repairs, over and over. It was always the same stuff, too.

If it helps, the last time my HPFP was replaced, they told me it was a completely new model to fix the issues. That was 30,000 miles before I traded it in and it had ZERO issues after that. Even if it did have anymore issues, it was warrantied up to 120,000 miles.

I wouldn’t hesitate to buy another 335 with higher miles, if the price was right. I’d just make sure to ask the dealer to run the key first and see what repairs have been done to it already.

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**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 11:48am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/33 "2013-11-15T11:48:34Z")

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> [@93dx--hatch](#):
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> Your car also only had like 50k on it…

My car only had 40k miles

Had carbon cleaning, hpfp, coils, lpfp, injectors replaced and a couple sensors

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**Author:** ![XwalkerX](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xwalkerx/32/7598_2.png) [@XwalkerX](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/XwalkerX)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/34 "2013-11-15T11:50:07Z")

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> [@thunderbunnycrisis](#):
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> [http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4087276997.html](http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/4087276997.html)
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> maybe go with something like this but with a 3rd peddle

peddle huh?

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**Author:** ![LZ1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@LZ1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LZ1)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/35 "2013-11-15T11:52:05Z")

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I’m not trying to buy some 100k 335i and expect it to be issue free

The ones I have been looking at are 30,000-low 40’s for milage

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**Author:** ![bing](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bing/32/7211_2.png) [@bing](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bing)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 6:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/36 "2013-11-15T18:12:50Z")

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> [@XwalkerX](#):
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> id say bump your 30k limit up 5k and pick on of these up
> 
> [2007 Black B7 Audi RS4 - 6SpeedOnline - Porsche Forum and Luxury Car Resource](http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/automobiles-sale/316019-2007-black-b7-audi-rs4.html)
> 
> [BMW E60 M5 - V10 + 6 Speed - 6SpeedOnline - Porsche Forum and Luxury Car Resource](http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/automobiles-sale/319077-bmw-e60-m5-v10-6-speed.html)

young tech that works for me bought one of these… his dad blew the clutch while he was out of town and it ended up costing like $4k to replace… oil changes are $200+ from the dealer too… In Canada anyways

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**Author:** ![captain\_morgan1](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/captain_morgan1/32/5928_2.png) [@captain\_morgan1](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/captain_morgan1)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/37 "2013-11-15T19:58:31Z")

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DO IT!!!  
[http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audi-RS4-PREMIUM-CARBON-PACKAGE-2007-audi-rs-4-4-2-l-rs-4-premium-carbon-pkg-6-speed-/141110472399?forcerrptr=true&hash=item20dad6eecf&item=141110472399&pt=US\_Cars\_Trucks](http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audi-RS4-PREMIUM-CARBON-PACKAGE-2007-audi-rs-4-4-2-l-rs-4-premium-carbon-pkg-6-speed-/141110472399?forcerrptr=true&hash=item20dad6eecf&item=141110472399&pt=US_Cars_Trucks)

[ATTACH=CONFIG]25081[/ATTACH]

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**Author:** ![theblue](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/theblue/32/5074_2.png) [@theblue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/theblue)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/38 "2013-11-15T20:45:59Z")

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Don’t rs4s have even worse problem with carbon, Worse mpgs and not really enough power to make it worth it?

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**Author:** ![sasquatch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@sasquatch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sasquatch)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 4:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/39 "2013-11-16T04:54:07Z")

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I think rs4’s worst problem is carbon build up. Oh and all the parts being stupid expensive.

MPG’s are pretty bad

Power is good, but it’s a heavy car and getting much more power isn’t easy or cheap

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**Author:** ![Xander](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/xander/32/7597_2.png) [@Xander](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Xander)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335-owners-are-they-as-bad-internet-forums-say-lol/233855/40 "2013-11-16T05:13:28Z")

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If it doesn’t have the option to be snky fast, LZ won’t want to buy it. The 335 with a few mods is much faster than the average person would think.

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