# 335xi **URL:** \ **Category:** Builds\ **Created:** [July 2, 2008, 11:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611 "2008-07-02T23:31:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![6SPD\_S4](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/6spd_s4/32/6326_2.png) [@6SPD\_S4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/6SPD_S4)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/341 "2008-08-29T14:25:26Z")
> [@LKSwhy?](#): > > Only little kids dig :lmao ---
**Author:** ![Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/mk4_30r_ban/32/6347_2.png) [@Mk4\_30R\_Ban](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Mk4_30R_Ban)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/342 "2008-08-29T14:30:35Z")
> [@kramerbuccs24](#): > > You clearly didn’t read what I said correctly. If a McLaren F1 had a floaty feel to it, I wouldn’t like the way it drives. Don’t take that out of context, all I’m saying is that every good-handling car feels different, the 335 floats over the bumps, I don’t like that. Not saying my car is a go kart, but it handles very well for what it is, but it also “drives” nice, in my opinion. You can feel the bumps in the road, but it’s not bone-shattering. In the 335, you feel nothing, it’s got “minivan syndrome”. Not my kind of car. > > On a side note… if Billy does decide to auto X it on the 14th, I think it would be reasonably close, him stock vs me with my setup. I’ve never driven his car flat-out around corners, but from what I can tell we’d be a close auto X battle. its amazing what a correct suspension does. its “floaty” because its absorbing the road and keeping the tires on the road, if its too stiff youll get wheel hop, improper geometry will get bumpsteer, so on and so fourth. youre just used to something different, the stiffer, less sprung feel… i bet a stock SER with the same tires you have would be very closely matched to your car on the same course. my gti feels like it would handle good, but it really is a pile of garbage. its too low, the control arms are too far past parallel and causes serious bumpsteer. sure looks cool. and is stiff, but with a custom spring rate, stock height, with some bilstein dampers and the rear anti roll bar i have id get walked by in the corners. my gti is actually going to be quite the 4x4 next time i drive it. ---
**Author:** ![Neo187H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/898d66/32.png) [@Neo187H](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Neo187H)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/343 "2008-08-29T15:26:19Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > its amazing what a correct suspension does. its “floaty” because its absorbing the road and keeping the tires on the road, if its too stiff youll get wheel hop, improper geometry will get bumpsteer, so on and so fourth. youre just used to something different, the stiffer, less sprung feel… i bet a stock SER with the same tires you have would be very closely matched to your car on the same course. The car handles floaty because its a luxury German sedan, not saying it doesn’t handle well but handing and acceleration aren’t the main concerns in a car like that. Having a nice ride while enjoying your expensive leather seats is and the car is set up accordingly. Tiny ass turbos that spool off idle giving a NA like drive, 3800lbs, full leather interior and iDrive, its not a sports car though it does have some nice very sporty touches. ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/344 "2008-08-29T15:33:15Z")
> [@Mk4 30R](#): > > its amazing what a correct suspension does. its “floaty” because its absorbing the road and keeping the tires on the road, if its too stiff youll get wheel hop, improper geometry will get bumpsteer, so on and so fourth. youre just used to something different, the stiffer, less sprung feel… i bet a stock SER with the same tires you have would be very closely matched to your car on the same course. > > my gti feels like it would handle good, but it really is a pile of garbage. its too low, the control arms are too far past parallel and causes serious bumpsteer. sure looks cool. and is stiff, but with a custom spring rate, stock height, with some bilstein dampers and the rear anti roll bar i have id get walked by in the corners. my gti is actually going to be quite the 4x4 next time i drive it. Right, but the xi’s are and will always be designed this way, they’re a solid half inch higher and the springs are like 4" longer, and alot of the suspension geometry is different to cater to it’s intended owner’s purpose: driving that shit in the winter. You want a sports car you buy a 335/135i You want a street bruiser/dd get an xi. and Travis…you are painfully gay. Your little ‘measly little fuck’ post was seriously almost physically painful for me to read, reading posts like that of yours is comparable to me pulling every hair in my arm out one by one. To summarize: every xi produced by bmw drives like a boat, because they have the softest/most travel(ing? idk how to state that) suspension out of the car line-up…and Travis-You suck. ---
**Author:** ![psi2high](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/psi2high/32/6320_2.png) [@psi2high](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/psi2high)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/345 "2008-08-29T16:09:20Z")
> [@EJ257FTW](#): > > FUCK YOU, you weasely little fuck… better bring those slicks if you wanna hang with me out of the hole. > > and prove it. trap is as much driver as it is car. Some ones getting angry ---
**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/346 "2008-08-29T18:43:17Z")
> [@30r\_logik](#): > > you’ll burnout coming out of the corners. he won’t. True, but not 100% a bad thing. It is very easy to make my car oversteer, which is a good thing because you bury the throttle and it counteracts it, just like how it is good for a RWD car to understeer because a tap of the throttle will free up the back end. You’d be pretty surprised what my car can do in auto X. I was .5 seconds (he was 28 flat, I was 28.5) behind a stock 2007 MCS and had the same best time as an e46 M3 (obviously the driver had something to do with this, but still… an M3 :lol), and I’m pretty happy with that. If the driver mods keep coming and once I get new tires next year, I’ll have myself a nice competitor in the local STX class. No way I can do anything in the SP or SM classes, but if I stay in street touring I’ll do just fine. I don’t understand why hardly anyone on here auto X’s. It’s $20 for a night at LVD for less than a minute of total action, unless you have a ridiculously slow car, and auto X is $45 for non SCCA members and $25 for members ($40/yr if you’re under 21, I believe). LVD is great, but it’s boring as hell compared to an auto X, in my opinion. Obviously the people with fast cars in straightlines will probably disagree, but my car isn’t fast in any direction and I still have a blast :lol ---
**Author:** ![mk1mr2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@mk1mr2](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/mk1mr2)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 6:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/347 "2008-08-29T18:48:38Z")
Kramer billy’s gonna auto-x and he will deff beat you, you are the one who actually thinks youll beat me ---
**Author:** ![kramerbuccs24](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kramerbuccs24/32/6397_2.png) [@kramerbuccs24](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/kramerbuccs24)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/348 "2008-08-29T18:56:33Z")
> [@mk1mr2](#): > > Kramer billy’s gonna auto-x and he will deff beat you, you are the one who actually thinks youll beat me wat ---
**Author:** ![bfol45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@bfol45](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bfol45)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/349 "2008-08-29T20:07:43Z")
> [@Neo187H](#): > > The car handles floaty because its a luxury German sedan, not saying it doesn’t handle well but handing and acceleration aren’t the main concerns in a car like that. Having a nice ride while enjoying your expensive leather seats is and the car is set up accordingly. Tiny ass turbos that spool off idle giving a NA like drive, 3800lbs, full leather interior and iDrive, its not a sports car though it does have some nice very sporty touches. its actually a manuel coupe lol ---
**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2008, 9:40pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/350 "2008-08-29T21:40:30Z")
> [@kramerbuccs24](#): > > True, but not 100% a bad thing. It is very easy to make my car oversteer, which is a good thing because you bury the throttle and it counteracts it, just like how it is good for a RWD car to understeer because a tap of the throttle will free up the back end. > > You’d be pretty surprised what my car can do in auto X. I was .5 seconds (he was 28 flat, I was 28.5) behind a stock 2007 MCS and had the same best time as an e46 M3 (obviously the driver had something to do with this, but still… an M3 :lol), and I’m pretty happy with that. If the driver mods keep coming and once I get new tires next year, I’ll have myself a nice competitor in the local STX class. No way I can do anything in the SP or SM classes, but if I stay in street touring I’ll do just fine. > > I don’t understand why hardly anyone on here auto X’s. It’s $20 for a night at LVD for less than a minute of total action, unless you have a ridiculously slow car, and auto X is $45 for non SCCA members and $25 for members ($40/yr if you’re under 21, I believe). LVD is great, but it’s boring as hell compared to an auto X, in my opinion. Obviously the people with fast cars in straightlines will probably disagree, but my car isn’t fast in any direction and I still have a blast :lol Somewhat OT from this 335 nutsack jumping convention… But unfortunately I think you are preaching to the choir here. Most everyone on this board is into drag racing- which takes skill and knowledge to get good at, but it may not be so appealing to you. Sure, drags may be $20 for less than a minute of total action, but that also means in that one run you have to do everything right - or you lose just like that. Also, if you pay $45 for an AutoX yeah that’s pretty decent but even if you get 6 runs during the day you’re still only running your car for 3-5 minutes total in an entire afternoon… ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2008, 8:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/351 "2008-08-30T08:41:44Z")
Tried Auto-X once at RPI, my car was in some crazy class because I had c/o’s and solid bushings and crap so I didn’t place worth a damn, and obviously it’s probably the gayest form of motorsport competition. My reasons: 1. You generally never get out of second gear or over 50mph 2. You’re in a fucking parking lot going around cones like a goddamn driver’s ed course 3. Car control? All it does is teach you how to be incredibly violent with the controls. 4. It seriously beats the shit out of the car, for multiple reasons. 5. $50 and you drive MAYBE 5 minutes total out of what? 4-6 hours? 6. Fuckthatshit. ---
**Author:** ![Neo187H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/898d66/32.png) [@Neo187H](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Neo187H)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2008, 8:54am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/352 "2008-08-30T08:54:07Z")
> [@bfol45](#): > > its actually a manuel coupe lol Sorry, coupe. Though its not like being a coupe saves any real amount of weight, its still almost exactly the same car as the sedan no? ---
**Author:** ![Code\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ea924/32.png) [@Code\_Blue](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Code_Blue)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2008, 9:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/353 "2008-08-30T09:05:52Z")
just to let you know bfol, I really like your car. looks hot. do they make the 4 door in comparable form? if so, I’d buy one then upgrade ze turbos…vroom vroom ---
**Author:** ![bfol45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@bfol45](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bfol45)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2008, 9:07am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/354 "2008-08-30T09:07:30Z")
> [@Code Blue](#): > > just to let you know bfol, I really like your car. looks hot. > > do they make the 4 door in comparable form? if so, I’d buy one then upgrade ze turbos…vroom vroom yes they do make a 4 door 335xi and a regular i > [@Neo187H](#): > > Sorry, coupe. Though its not like being a coupe saves any real amount of weight, its still almost exactly the same car as the sedan no? yea i was just messing around. i just dont like 4 doors as much. ---
**Author:** ![OsoiNA6](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/osoina6/32/6301_2.png) [@OsoiNA6](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/OsoiNA6)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2008, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/355 "2008-08-30T10:08:28Z")
> [@BENNYFIZZLE](#): > > Tried Auto-X once at RPI, my car was in some crazy class because I had c/o’s and solid bushings and crap so I didn’t place worth a damn, and obviously it’s probably the gayest form of motorsport competition. > > My reasons: > > 1. You generally never get out of second gear or over 50mph > 2. You’re in a fucking parking lot going around cones like a goddamn driver’s ed course > 3. Car control? All it does is teach you how to be incredibly violent with the controls. > 4. It seriously beats the shit out of the car, for multiple reasons. > 5. $50 and you drive MAYBE 5 minutes total out of what? 4-6 hours? > 6. Fuckthatshit. I hear you man… But in my opinion, going to an AutoX is better than not doing anything at all in terms of driving the car hard (including turns). Not everyone has the resources to be hitting an open track on a regular basis. Here’s my reply though… 1. Sounds :gay but if you can’t control the car at 50 mph, it’s not gonna be any easier at 100+ 2. Sounds like most East Coast drift events, but those sure seem to pull chicks… 3. So there is some similarity between this and LVD / highway runs? 4. See 3. 5. Point taken, this is why I don’t think it’s that cost-effective either. 6. Sounds like sour grapes at being raped by a Geo Metro sitting on 255/30R12s in the Street Prepared class… ;D Feel free to move this to Battlefield, Race Day… Don’t want to clutter up this thread… ---
**Author:** ![jdaniels](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jdaniels/32/6399_2.png) [@jdaniels](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/jdaniels)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2008, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/356 "2008-08-31T07:05:41Z")
> [@bfol45](#): > > its actually a **manuel** coupe lol Lol, what? Is it built in Mexico? ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2008, 7:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/357 "2008-08-31T07:35:30Z")
> [@jdaniels](#): > > Lol, what? Is it built in Mexico? :rofl ---
**Author:** ![bfol45](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@bfol45](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bfol45)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2008, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/358 "2008-08-31T07:36:32Z")
:nod :lol ---
**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2008, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/359 "2008-08-31T09:38:57Z")
> [@mk1mr2](#): > > Kramer billy’s gonna auto-x and he will deff beat you, you are the one who actually thinks youll beat me Missed this gem :rofl Dude just because BMW’s are synonymous (that means they go hand in hand ;)) with handling doesn’t mean theyre just instantly god of all handling challenges…and this is a damn xi, it’s like the cadillac of 3 series. If Kramer’s got some experience under his belt I can’t help but think he’s have the edge…then again idk how much experience Brian has, but that’s really what it boils down to…driver mods. ---
**Author:** ![K20power](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/41988e/32.png) [@K20power](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/K20power)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2008, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611/360 "2008-08-31T09:40:28Z")
> [@BENNYFIZZLE](#): > > If Kramer’s got some experience under his belt I can’t help but think he’s have the edge…then again idk how much experience Brian has, but that’s really what it boils down to…driver mods. Who’s Brian? [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611.md?page=17) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/335xi/237611.md?page=19)