# 350z's done how i like **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [January 24, 2010, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/350zs-done-how-i-like/249915 "2010-01-24T13:21:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 53
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/350zs-done-how-i-like/249915/53 "2010-01-27T11:57:10Z")
> [@Sabres Bash Tonight @ My house! ~KEGERATOR~](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/sabres-bash-tonight-my-house-kegerator/28767/44): > > i’m not gonna try to convince you to like it, because its an objective thing, but to say these cars are unsafe to drive or don’t fuction is just a lie. these cars still can drive just as well as anything else, the white one is use as a drift car (obv just on a hobby level). and a lot of these cars don’t even have aftermarket camber arms, the red one had the stock set up maxed out at 4.8 degrees of camber. and camber does not make your tires wear as fast as people think, yes they will wear uneven and a little quicker but if your tires are wearing fast its the toe most likely destroying it, not camber (i wrote a 10 page paper in hs once on suspension setup, wish it was never lost). and my mr2 went through a set of tires in 5k miles with 2 degrees of camber and zero toe, that was to the point of them looking like slicks, not everyone gets a lot of miles out of tires, u just deal with it or u don’t do this style. > > how did that post end up so long lol. I hear ya on the toe in/out wears tires faster, the lugs are twising and working harder thus wear out faster. The camber puts an uneven load on the tread and heats up the tread unevenly to. some of the wild camber setups I see you can actually see daylights on the outer edges of the tread width… Not to mention even if they wear unevenly and it gets wet out, you will have 3/32 tread depth on the edge of the tire and steel bands on the inside where the contact patch is focused… thus going for a spin maybe. To much camber will def. hamper the handleing. as the body leans the inside tires will get farther from perpindicular to the ground, and if the inside suspension sags more usually as suspension is droops the geometry adds more - camber to the car. depends on the suspension geo. I dont want to keep jacking this thread, i know it wasnt your intenetions. But if you take a stock Z and a extreme Z as shown above and drove them at the same speeds and agressivness across the country the tire wear and would be much different. --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/350zs-done-how-i-like/249915)._