# 3s-gte. . . **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [July 11, 2005, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518 "2005-07-11T13:29:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/1 "2005-07-11T13:29:48Z")
will be finally going back into the all-trac here in the next few weeks…im so xcited :embarassd is there anyone else here that rocks the 3s? ---
**Author:** ![imported\_jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/53a042/32.png) [@imported\_jim](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_jim)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/2 "2005-07-11T14:15:01Z")
I thought about putting one in my Starlet but opted to stick with the 4AGE just because I have three sitting on the floor of my garage. ---
**Author:** ![Old\_Dirty\_Georg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ab992/32.png) [@Old\_Dirty\_Georg](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Old_Dirty_Georg)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/3 "2005-07-11T14:39:47Z")
:bsflag: :bluez28: So the race is on, will I finish my brakes or will you finish your engine first. Since I have to use your garage I guess you will win. :doh: ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/4 "2005-07-11T14:42:15Z")
> [@Old Dirty Georg](#): > > Since I have to use your garage I guess you will win. :doh: sorry but, :owned: I’ll put the motor together at the shop, but it’ll be installed at my house… :eek4: :down: ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/5 "2005-07-11T14:44:14Z")
> [@jim](#): > > I thought about putting one in my Starlet but opted to stick with the 4AGE just because I have three sitting on the floor of my garage. 4age is still the hawtness 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![ritalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@ritalin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ritalin)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 5:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/6 "2005-07-11T17:29:00Z")
How many all-trac’s were made? I’ve only ever seen 1 out here. ---
**Author:** ![neonmike22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ba8739/32.png) [@neonmike22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonmike22)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2005, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/7 "2005-07-11T21:06:19Z")
> [@gearhead](#): > > is there anyone else here that rocks the 3s? Not yet… ---
**Author:** ![imported\_showtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@imported\_showtime](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_showtime)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2005, 4:56am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/8 "2005-07-12T04:56:13Z")
> [@ritalin](#): > > How many all-trac’s were made? I’ve only ever seen 1 out here. i’ve personally seen at least 2 :naughty: ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 10:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/9 "2005-07-13T10:50:18Z")
If i had to take a wild guess, i’d say there are between 15-20 st165’s (1988-1989) on the east coast left. The production was random, but were counted. I have #2597 which is fairly early. ---
**Author:** ![whitey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/whitey/32/5911_2.png) [@whitey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/whitey)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/10 "2005-07-13T11:11:29Z")
there was an all trac at carlisle 2 years ago… thats the only one i ever saw. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2005, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/11 "2005-07-13T15:56:46Z")
it sux they are getting rare and yet the price does not reflect. ---
**Author:** ![Big\_PimpN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@Big\_PimpN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Big_PimpN)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/12 "2005-07-15T08:25:59Z")
I wish i rocked a 3s, but I love my 4age 20valve. I just wish i had boost and more torque. Did you make any changes to the 3s gearhead? ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/13 "2005-07-15T10:11:02Z")
> [@Big\_PimpN](#): > > I wish i rocked a 3s, but I love my 4age 20valve. I just wish i had boost and more torque. Did you make any changes to the 3s gearhead? mmm… i always kicked around the idea of a 20v in the Prizm… ---
**Author:** ![Blazin\_Si](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2bfe46/32.png) [@Blazin\_Si](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Blazin_Si)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/14 "2005-07-15T10:39:41Z")
There were 2 AllTracs at the Beaver earlier this year. They were father and son cars and they mentioned that they owned another one as a parts car. ![http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTAwMzQyNDZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg](http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTAwMzQyNDZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg) ![http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTAwMzQyNTZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg](http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTAwMzQyNTZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg) Pretty cool cars. ---
**Author:** ![imported\_gearhead](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/imported_gearhead/32/5957_2.png) [@imported\_gearhead](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/imported_gearhead)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 10:53am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/15 "2005-07-15T10:53:38Z")
ya, those are st185’s. 90-93. They arn’t quite as rare, but still cool. I know Austin breifly when he tryed to buy my alltrac and i had to turn him down. The white one is a guru i rarely talk to, but knows his beans. IMO, its all about the st165. Anyone can go find an st185 and be done. I still have the stock rods and pistions in my motor. ARP studded everything I could (mains, rods, head, flywheel). Probably will do a good HG and thats it. I just want to get it running again. I’ve heard of BIG numbers on stock guts. Very comparible to sr20’s. The rods are massive. ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/all%20trac/pistons.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/all%20trac/pistons.jpg) o ya, i ported out all the TVIS too: some in the process action ![http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/all%20trac/sec.jpg](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/gearhead313/all%20trac/sec.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Big\_PimpN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@Big\_PimpN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Big_PimpN)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/16 "2005-07-15T13:06:36Z")
Yeah stock internals will last a while. I know people have run large amount of boost. If you do the regular maintenance and monitor things well then you could push more. ---
**Author:** ![Big\_PimpN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e95f7d/32.png) [@Big\_PimpN](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Big_PimpN)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/17 "2005-07-15T13:07:54Z")
> [@ShalerPunk](#): > > mmm… i always kicked around the idea of a 20v in the Prizm… not worth it in my opinion unless you really love your prizm. A lot of time and agravation involved in the swap. ---
**Author:** ![neonmike22](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ba8739/32.png) [@neonmike22](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonmike22)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2005, 5:06pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/18 "2005-07-15T17:06:05Z")
To be a little less vauge, I’ve started saving up for a '91ish MR2 turbo. I believe you can register a '91 as a classic now that the MR-S is out of production (and ven if i can’t), it’ll be a million times cooler/faster than the neon and cheaper to keep on the road. I still have a soft spot for the looks of the ST185s though. > [@Big\_PimpN](#): > > not worth it in my opinion unless you really love your prizm. A lot of time and agravation involved in the swap. Even with an AE101 halfcut? ---
**Author:** ![ShalerPunk](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/shalerpunk/32/5976_2.png) [@ShalerPunk](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ShalerPunk)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/19 "2005-07-16T00:24:35Z")
> [@Big\_PimpN](#): > > not worth it in my opinion unless you really love your prizm. A lot of time and agravation involved in the swap. putting the 20v 4AGE where the 4AFE was? what’s the hassle? wiring? ---
**Author:** ![ritalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@ritalin](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/ritalin)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2005, 5:22am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518/20 "2005-07-16T05:22:40Z")
I’d rather have the st185? Then again I might buy this beater corolla sr5 and drop in a 4agze or 4age bluetop. [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/3s-gte/175518.md?page=2)