# 4 Dead in Long Island **URL:** \ **Category:** Shift518 Automotive\ **Created:** [October 10, 2012, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-dead-in-long-island/265178 "2012-10-10T09:14:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MGs4me](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@MGs4me](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/MGs4me)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-dead-in-long-island/265178/1 "2012-10-10T09:14:48Z")
Kind of surprised this wasn’t mentioned already… A 17 year old “brainiac” given a 2011 Subaru Impreza ( I think an STI) as a gift for graduating school early, killed his 4 friends the other day. He only had a Learners Permit and they were out at 3:30am. Ironically they crashed at an area the locals called Dead Mans Curve. The car went in to some trees at a high rate of speed and broke in two pieces. Somehow the driver escaped with non life threatening injuries, all 4 of his friends were dead at the scene. A bystander said the bodies looked like “rag dolls” What a complete waste, 4 dead and another one’s life pretty much ruined. Just can’t figure out what the parents were thinking in giving an inexperienced driver a car like that. As well as letting him go off with with 4 friends in the car without having a license. Not really trying to take the responsibility here off of the driver but, I think there were plenty of dumb ass decisions made all around. The parents of the driver, the 4 passengers for going with him, their parents for not knowing (or caring) where they were, and of course the driver. Kind of the “Perfect Storm” for a tragedy ![http://news.google.com/news/tbn/kumcpUrPgkcJ/6.jpg](http://news.google.com/news/tbn/kumcpUrPgkcJ/6.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![sbardy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sbardy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sbardy)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 9:41am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-dead-in-long-island/265178/2 "2012-10-10T09:41:57Z")
Poor families… ---
**Author:** ![d\_gage](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/d_gage/32/6321_2.png) [@d\_gage](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/d_gage)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 9:52am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-dead-in-long-island/265178/3 "2012-10-10T09:52:29Z")
(IB4KKR) Condolences to the families, can’t even imagine. ---
**Author:** ![RocketPunch](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/rocketpunch/32/6429_2.png) [@RocketPunch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/RocketPunch)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-dead-in-long-island/265178/4 "2012-10-10T09:57:31Z")
Tragic. Personally I think it had less to do with the type (or power) of car that was given to the kid than the common misconception that you can’t get yourself into trouble on a AWD car with all the e-nanny enabled, and when you do the even more tragic misconception that you cannot be killed in one that has enough air bags. 2 trackdays with that car and common sense, the kid may have saved his 4 friends. Sadly 4.0 GPA in school doesn’t necessary mean a 4.0 GPA in common sense… ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 10:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-dead-in-long-island/265178/5 "2012-10-10T10:13:48Z")
He and mustang kid should be put in the same jail cell together ---
**Author:** ![HudsonFalcon](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hudsonfalcon/32/6460_2.png) [@HudsonFalcon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HudsonFalcon)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-dead-in-long-island/265178/6 "2012-10-10T10:25:35Z")
Really unfortunate event that could’ve been avoided. ---
**Author:** ![10secondC](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/10secondc/32/6715_2.png) [@10secondC](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/10secondC)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-dead-in-long-island/265178/7 "2012-10-10T12:30:39Z")
I know that curve… a buddy of mine rolled an SRT 300C on that curve racing a Lambo at some retarded speed and managed to survive. ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-dead-in-long-island/265178/8 "2012-10-10T13:56:28Z")
“Its not how fast the car is that matters it’s self control”. Sincerely, the rest of Shift. ---
**Author:** ![capitalcrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e79b87/32.png) [@capitalcrew](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/capitalcrew)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-dead-in-long-island/265178/9 "2012-10-10T14:01:23Z")
So then why should people start out on a ninja 250? ---
**Author:** ![Vovchandr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/vovchandr/32/6275_2.png) [@Vovchandr](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Vovchandr)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-dead-in-long-island/265178/10 "2012-10-10T14:44:52Z")
> [@I Miss Greg Johnson](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/i-miss-greg-johnson/50796/38): > > So then why should people start out on a ninja 250? Never, the faster the vehicle the better. Provides plenty material to post about in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Ollie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a87d85/32.png) [@Ollie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Ollie)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-dead-in-long-island/265178/11 "2012-10-10T16:57:41Z")
Plenty young kids drive fast cars responsibly. Plenty people kill others in economy cars. Don’t lose sleep overanalyzing it because you didn’t have a nice car or have fun with your buddies when you were a kid. Rip ---
**Author:** ![KrazyKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/krazykid/32/6371_2.png) [@KrazyKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KrazyKid)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-dead-in-long-island/265178/12 "2012-10-11T06:35:59Z")
I dont over analyze much at all. Its easier to pull the “Dude was a dumb fuck” card for 99% of all the “tragic” accidents we read about. Parents were dumb for pampering the kid with a $40K high performance sports car as a gift at that young age. Parents were dumb for not monitoring the kid and his friends under their roof. Kid was dumb for the obvious reasons. nofuxgvn ---
**Author:** ![daknut93](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/daknut93/32/6743_2.png) [@daknut93](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/daknut93)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 7:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-dead-in-long-island/265178/13 "2012-10-11T07:27:36Z")
Shitty deal i feel bad for the parents and others affected ---
**Author:** ![Murrdog9000](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/murrdog9000/32/6391_2.png) [@Murrdog9000](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Murrdog9000)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2012, 1:23am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-dead-in-long-island/265178/14 "2012-10-15T01:23:43Z")
Is what it is.