# 4 door k20 swaps r slow

**URL:** <https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747>\
**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [July 12, 2008, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747 "2008-07-12T10:00:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tdi\_logik](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/tdi_logik/32/6310_2.png) [@tdi\_logik](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/tdi_logik)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/61 "2008-07-12T11:14:39Z")

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> [@88slowmarro](#):
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> 11teen hundred

wat

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**Author:** ![Swifty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@Swifty](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Swifty)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/62 "2008-07-12T11:24:56Z")

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i duno bout 10 cars

from where i was sitting (driving joeys car) it looked like 5 or 6 probably. But i’d have to say you had a solid 3-4 before 60mph. Hard to tell, someone shoulda got it on tape tho, and i def shoulda raced you from a roll since you seemed to want to on the way there. I just figured since you said you werent gonna launch it we’d just do the dig. but i see how that turned out. :lol

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/63 "2008-07-12T11:43:58Z")

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sorry homie… just wanted to see how shed pull with a simulated valley run. oddly enough i get more traction on the ave. :headbang

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 12:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/64 "2008-07-12T12:13:17Z")

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> [@EJ257FTW](#):
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> oddly enough i get more traction on the ave. :headbang

:confused

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/65 "2008-07-12T12:26:24Z")

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> [@K20powerz](#):
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> Ok, travis’ car may beat my car that has less than 200whp at the moment, congratulations.
> 
> It’s still the slowest STI i’ve seen other than stock.

Dude you’re such a sore loser :rofl

Every time you set up a race in anything you always give yourself the one up, and handicap the other person, and if you lose you make up all these excuses.

Joey even said he wouldn’t race my car from a dig because it hooks :confused

What’s you expect to happen me smoking them into third? My car’s 2xxwhp too :rofl

Joey this is an official dig race call out, I’ll even go from a 45 roll to appease you, while still keeping me in my powerband.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/66 "2008-07-12T12:26:49Z")

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> [@EJ257FTW](#):
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> oddly enough i get more traction on the ave. :headbang

areyousmokingrock

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**Author:** ![Shawn96VR-4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Shawn96VR-4](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Shawn96VR-4)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/67 "2008-07-12T12:27:52Z")

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> [@BENNYFIZZLE](#):
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> areyousmokingrock

Sounds like you never ran at LVD.

Night and day difference for me as well.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/68 "2008-07-12T12:32:35Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> Sounds like you never ran at LVD.
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> Night and day difference for me as well.

I’m confused…

I hooked much better/bogged alot more than on the street at LVD.

Which makes sense as the street generally doesn’t have 1/4" of rubber and VHT built into the cement :rofl

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/69 "2008-07-12T12:35:24Z")

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> [@BENNYFIZZLE](#):
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> I’m confused…
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> I hooked much better/bogged alot more than on the street at LVD.
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> Which makes sense as the street generally doesn’t have 1/4" of rubber and VHT built into the cement :rofl

It’s very easy case to make that LVD sucks as a NHRA track if when/if they don’t use VHT. They didn’t ever in the past but I hear they are now or changed the surface a bit recently?

Either way, for me, LVD had no VHT and was greasy from the all of the trailored big slick domestics that just happen to go on “street night”. I had much better traction on the dry street.

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**Author:** ![bennyfizzle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/bennyfizzle/32/6291_2.png) [@bennyfizzle](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/bennyfizzle)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/70 "2008-07-12T12:38:08Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> It’s very easy case to make that LVD sucks as a NHRA track if when/if they don’t use VHT. They didn’t ever in the past but I hear they are now or changed the surface a bit recently?
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> Either way, for me, LVD had no VHT and was greasy from the all of the trailored big slick domestics that just happen to go on “street night”. I had much better traction on the dry street.

I hooked great the day I was there, my buddy told me the announcer said ‘THAT BEEMER GAT ALLLL THE TRACTION THAT TIME!’ Right after I launched :rofl

Then again it was like 95\* when I was there, one of those “the-track-is-sticking-to-my-shoes” days.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/71 "2008-07-12T12:38:30Z")

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It sucked on weds nights because everyone runs street tires and dicks up the track. Street tires kill the track prep :nod

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/72 "2008-07-12T12:41:15Z")

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> [@94Gt5.0](#):
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> It sucked on weds nights because everyone runs street tires and dicks up the track. Street tires kill the track prep :nod

Street tires pays for that track. The trailored cars should go to another night. It’s not fair for the others.

NED/Island/ATCO/ETown all have VHT for the street tire guys. Why is LVD any different?

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/73 "2008-07-12T12:47:15Z")

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> [@Shawn96VR-4](#):
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> Street tires pays for that track. The trailored cars should go to another night. It’s not fair for the others.
> 
> NED/Island/ATCO/ETown all have VHT for the street tire guys. Why is LVD any different?

Seriously, where does the fucking $10 spectator fees go? :idiots

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 12:50pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/74 "2008-07-12T12:50:25Z")

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Because VHT doesnt make a huge difference for street tire cars, it helps but after a couple runs its all tore up, not cost efficient.

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**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/75 "2008-07-12T12:53:49Z")

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> [@94Gt5.0](#):
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> Because VHT doesnt make a huge difference for street tire cars, it helps but after a couple runs its all tore up, not cost efficient.

It does for me. 🙂

Either way, it might not be cost effective but all of the other tracks I listed, do it. LVD is cheapos 😉

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/76 "2008-07-13T21:47:03Z")

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LVD is also 2 degrees uphill, and has some rebar poking out of the pavement down track :wtf Needs some work to say the least

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/77 "2008-07-14T01:28:14Z")

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its 30minutes away and they have vinegar fries. quit yo bitchin!

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/78 "2008-07-14T09:04:53Z")

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> [@Swifty](#):
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> its 30minutes away and they have vinegar fries. quit yo bitchin!

vinegar fries? i always get the regular ones? :wtf

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/79 "2008-07-14T09:13:35Z")

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Why on earth would you put vinegar on french fries :confused

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-door-k20-swaps-r-slow/237747/80 "2008-07-14T09:13:55Z")

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> [@Swifty](#):
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> its 30minutes away and they have vinegar fries. quit yo bitchin!

:lol Hey i \<3 the valley fries!!! They could use a little updating though, you must admit…

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