# 4-stroke dirt bikes **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [July 12, 2008, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382 "2008-07-12T19:48:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![sickboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ea924/32.png) [@sickboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/sickboy)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/21 "2008-07-20T18:31:55Z")
get a 250 2 stroke (that’s what I’ve got), plenty power, don’t have to rev the shit out of it, but when you do, hold on, it will really go. Throw on a flywheel weight and they make great trail bikes. If you’re into racing, all bikes 250cc and under are in the same class now, so you’re racing against 250F’s which will be down 10 hp on you. Sure the 250 2 stroke requires more maintenance than a four stroke, but less than a 125 2 stroke, and it’s way cheaper than maintenance on a 4 stroke. Want something easier to ride, get the 4 stroke. Whatever you do, it’s a good idea to avoid older 250F’s, many are ratted out now to the point where you’ll be spending big money rebuilding them, and by then you might as well have bought a newer one that doesn’t need rebuilding. ---
**Author:** ![joelster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joelster/32/7258_2.png) [@joelster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/joelster)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/22 "2008-07-20T19:17:11Z")
If you are a beginner you certainly don’t want a 250cc 2-stroke. Way too much power, very easy to get yourself into trouble, especially if you decide to do any jumps or anything. Watch this kids first race on his KX250. Leaning back on the bike with the throttle open is a recipe for disaster. It’s funny as hell especially the ending. Don’t let this be you! I’m still laughing my ass off! ---
**Author:** ![wnyryder\_05](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wnyryder_05/32/5134_2.png) [@wnyryder\_05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wnyryder_05)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/23 "2008-07-20T20:12:55Z")
> [@KuntryQuestTSi](#): > > yes I do realize that, > do you realize that riding a sled VS riding a bike are 2 totally different riding styles?? > there is no shifting on the phazer VS shifting 27365983475 times to stay off the rev limiter on the on the 4 stroke You obviously don’t know what your talking about because your always shifting on a 125. ---
**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 4:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/24 "2008-07-21T04:28:47Z")
yep, your fucking right genius. fuck might as well tell the kid to get a TT-R 125 your shifting at different points on a 125, or I just could never get the hang of the 4 strokes. seems on a 2 stroke you can hit a jump be in the right gear and have power into the nest in a rythem section. I tryed that on a 4 stroke hit the rev limiter right at the top of the jump and nearly at shit ---
**Author:** ![justa4door](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/justa4door/32/7259_2.png) [@justa4door](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/justa4door)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/25 "2008-07-21T05:09:55Z")
i ride a RM250 2S and i love it … i started with a YZ250 2S that was my first bike when i was 14 and i loved it … when i had a 4S i felt like i went threw so much more gas then now that i have a 2S once more ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/26 "2008-07-21T18:36:07Z")
If you can find a TT225 let me know… I’d like another one. Great trail bike. ---
**Author:** ![wnyryder\_05](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wnyryder_05/32/5134_2.png) [@wnyryder\_05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wnyryder_05)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/27 "2008-07-21T18:55:14Z")
> [@KuntryQuestTSi](#): > > yep, your fucking right genius. > fuck might as well tell the kid to get a TT-R 125 > > your shifting at different points on a 125, or I just could never get the hang of the 4 strokes. seems on a 2 stroke you can hit a jump be in the right gear and have power into the nest in a rythem section. I tryed that on a 4 stroke hit the rev limiter right at the top of the jump and nearly at shit No, you are wrong smart guy. You probably grew up riding a 2 stroke and didn’t know how to ride a 4 stroke properly. Which is probably why your bikes were eating valves, from bouncing the bike off the rev limiter. ---
**Author:** ![snowracer101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@snowracer101](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/snowracer101)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/28 "2008-07-21T19:04:41Z")
> [@wnyryder\_05](#): > > No, you are wrong smart guy. You probably grew up riding a 2 stroke and didn’t know how to ride a 4 stroke properly. Which is probably why your bikes were eating valves, from bouncing the bike off the rev limiter. I will admit it took me about 15 minutes to get accustomed to my 4 stroke, 4 strokes are definitely more maintenance, but, they are SO much better for the race track. period. ---
**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/29 "2008-07-21T19:18:16Z")
> [@wnyryder\_05](#): > > No, you are wrong smart guy. You probably grew up riding a 2 stroke and didn’t know how to ride a 4 stroke properly. Which is probably why your bikes were eating valves, from bouncing the bike off the rev limiter. yep your right, 100% 2 Strokes are the new rotary. :picard: Lock this thread, might as well talk to a wall ---
**Author:** ![wnyryder\_05](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wnyryder_05/32/5134_2.png) [@wnyryder\_05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wnyryder_05)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/30 "2008-07-21T19:19:15Z")
your an idiot, don’t get mad because you can’t prove your point. ---
**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/31 "2008-07-21T19:20:52Z")
point has already been proven. you didn’t get it others have / ---
**Author:** ![Jack](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/jack/32/7613_2.png) [@Jack](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Jack)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 7:24pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/32 "2008-07-21T19:24:24Z")
> [@sedlmeier101](#): > > 4 strokes are definitely more maintenance. Are you high? They have more costly maintenance… but the time between maintenance is much much longer. Like infinity. You can beat the crap oout of a stroker forever and never have to pull the head. Good luck with that 2 stroke on the trail. ---
**Author:** ![wnyryder\_05](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wnyryder_05/32/5134_2.png) [@wnyryder\_05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wnyryder_05)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/33 "2008-07-21T19:29:37Z")
> [@Jack](#): > > Are you high? > > They have more costly maintenance… but the time between maintenance is much much longer. Like infinity. > > You can beat the crap oout of a stroker forever and never have to pull the head. Good luck with that 2 stroke on the trail. No, he is right, The modern 4 strokes do require more up-keep for sure. The new 250f and 450f bikes rev up to 13,000 rpm. I’ve owned over 5 250f bikes and I’ve bought the majority of them blown up needing valves and the head to be machined. Most of it has to do with people riding them like 2 strokes and not knowing what gear to ride the bike in. I see it all the time. ---
**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 7:33pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/34 "2008-07-21T19:33:24Z")
now, if you bought a blown up 2 stroke it would cost… ---
**Author:** ![wnyryder\_05](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wnyryder_05/32/5134_2.png) [@wnyryder\_05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wnyryder_05)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/35 "2008-07-21T19:34:09Z")
> [@NYstanger"](#): > > What are the pros and cons of 4 stroke dirt bikes vs 2 strokes? Considering getting a dirt bike possibly soon and not sure what direction i should be looking towards. Would be used for just trail type riding. Also any recommendations for one? Looking for something late 90s. And to answer your question-I’d recommend a late 90s or early 2000 XR250- The things are bullet proof and will put out enough power for a first time rider to learn. ---
**Author:** ![wnyryder\_05](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wnyryder_05/32/5134_2.png) [@wnyryder\_05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wnyryder_05)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/36 "2008-07-21T19:38:25Z")
> [@KuntryQuestTSi](#): > > now, if you bought a blown up 2 stroke it would cost… Yea but the 2 stroke bikes are incredibly obsolete. You can pick up a running 2 stroke for the price of a blown up 4 stroke. The new 4 strokes just blow the 2 strokes away though. Why do you think Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Honda no longer produce 2 strokes bikes? Its because no1 was buying them. ---
**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/37 "2008-07-21T19:42:42Z")
as stated before, 4 strokes are more power than the 2 strokes. ---
**Author:** ![wnyryder\_05](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/wnyryder_05/32/5134_2.png) [@wnyryder\_05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/wnyryder_05)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/38 "2008-07-21T19:45:13Z")
Which is why the AMA has changed regulations. EDIT- When it comes down to that though what does it really matter. I highly doubt you could ride a 125/250f to its potential anyways. What district did you race in? Did you ever actually race? ---
**Author:** ![KuntryQuestTSi](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/kuntryquesttsi/32/5010_2.png) [@KuntryQuestTSi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/KuntryQuestTSi)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/39 "2008-07-22T04:17:43Z")
I raced 250 open and have been racing supermoto ---
**Author:** ![joelster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joelster/32/7258_2.png) [@joelster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/joelster)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2008, 4:28am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/40 "2008-07-22T04:28:48Z")
> [@wnyryder\_05](#): > > Yea but the 2 stroke bikes are incredibly obsolete. You can pick up a running 2 stroke for the price of a blown up 4 stroke. The new 4 strokes just blow the 2 strokes away though. Why do you think Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Honda no longer produce 2 strokes bikes? Its because no1 was buying them. Exactly…a friend of mine who used to race a lot and was sponsored by a local shop got 2 bikes to use at his disposal every year. At the end of the year he had to give them back, but keep any of the mods he did to them. His 125 2-stroke, would always get motor work, a pipe, silencer, reeds,better piston/rings, porting, etc…When he finally made the switch to a 250 4-stroke I asked him what mods he did to it when he raced it…his reply “decals”. [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382.md?page=3)