# 4-stroke dirt bikes

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**Created:** [July 12, 2008, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382 "2008-07-12T19:48:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![joelster](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/joelster/32/7258_2.png) [@joelster](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/joelster)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2008, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4-stroke-dirt-bikes/51382/9 "2008-07-13T09:27:31Z")

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> [@KuntryQuestTSi](#):
>
> WRONG  
> all fail  
> the ONLY reason 4 strokes came the new thing was because a 125 2 stroke was supposed to equal a 250 4S (4 stroke ).  
> THEY ARE NOT /  
> now with that being said  
> 2 strokes are MUCH cheaper to toy with  
> you can rebuild everything even the crank  
> sure pistion and rings now and then whats 100-200 bucks a season?
> 
> now blow up a 4 stroke  
> head $1000  
> pistion & rings $300  
> timing chain, cams, ect…  
> and you will had the fact you have a retared rev limiter so you can be like the rocket crew and make it sound sweet. your always shifting with a damn 4 stroke if your trying to go fast.
> 
> Also, humm I want an exhaust for my bike.  
> 2 stroke 200 ish  
> 4 stroke - better start makeing $1000 bills
> 
> I had a 1989 CR500 and raced at area 51.  
> I sucked, the bike was old and heavy  
> people where pointing and laughing  
> Intill the gate droped and no one could figure out why they where eating my roost
> 
> and you envormentalist fucks  
> artic cat makes 2 strokes that run cleaner than the 4 strokes its only a matter of time before its adapted to new wheels
> 
> cliffs : 2 strokes FTMFW

WRONG.  
You fail.

I LOVE 2-strokes, but I will give credit where credit is due.

On any given track, or any given trail a YZ250F will be the better bike than a YZ125 period.

You throw around maintanance costs. Yes the 4-stroke is more expensive to rebuild, BUT it doesn’t need to be rebuilt nearly as much as a 2-stroke does. You talk about how expensive an exhaust is, so leave it stock, duh. You think a 2-stroke needs a piston/rings once a season? Hrmm…well you obviously don’t ride a lot, or ride the bike on the pipe a lot. Maybe your CR500 you could get away with that but not a 125 that gets ridden a lot, no way. I could go about 2 months, maybe, then it at least needed rings.

Then lets talk about technique to ride. What do you think is the easier bike to ride? Hands down the 4-stroke. The only way to get a 125 to move is to rev the shit out of it and ride the clutch constantly, unless you weigh 50lbs. Go lug a 125 around for about 5 minutes with a beginner on board. It will foul the plug and stall. NGK B9EV’s can get expensive.

Your CR500 has a ton of power for sure, but a bike like that can be a handful to ride, and will literally beat the shit out of you in 3 laps. One bad blip of the throttle on the face of a jump and it’s all over.

Let’s talk about gas costs. Pull up to the pump and gas up your 4-stroke. 2-strokes need the pre-mix which isn’t that big of a deal, but it does add up after a while.

Like I said before, I LOVE 2-strokes and wish the AMA would have picked a better displacement for the 4-strokes, but I will concede that a 4-stroke is a better bike. It should have been something like this:

125cc 2-stroke/200cc 4-stroke  
250cc 2-stroke/350cc 4-stroke

With displacements something like that all the manufacturers would still be making them.

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