# 44mm wastegates... **URL:** \ **Category:** NYSpeed Automotive\ **Created:** [September 29, 2009, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181 "2009-09-29T12:21:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![glitch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/0ea827/32.png) [@glitch](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/glitch)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/21 "2009-09-29T14:31:34Z")
Probably the same people who think the biggest injector is the best. ---
**Author:** ![turbociv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@turbociv](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/turbociv)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/22 "2009-09-29T15:13:17Z")
fggt ass pussies. i dont even run wastegates on my car. i like to let the turbo be free like a bird.lol but seriously, i run a 38. and even though i plan on runnin a 42r im still sticking with my 38mm.😉 ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/23 "2009-09-29T16:11:39Z")
> [@turbociv](#): > > fggt ass pussies. i dont even run wastegates on my car. i like to let the turbo be free like a bird.lol > > but seriously, i run a 38. and even though i plan on runnin a 42r im still sticking with my 38mm.😉 single 38 with a 42r? my guess is only will be ran on race gas and high boost ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/24 "2009-09-29T16:14:24Z")
38mm is vband now… baller ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/25 "2009-09-29T16:23:01Z")
> [@alpha earl](#): > > single 38 with a 42r? my guess is only will be ran on race gas and high boost Do you think that you can only run high boost with a single 38 on 42r set-up? Newman, i feel your pain, but fuck em and keep making cool shit. Its worth it for the few car-smart people who understand. ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/26 "2009-09-29T16:37:32Z")
> [@OutlawStar](#): > > Do you think that you can only run high boost with a single 38 on 42r set-up? > > . it would all depend on the manifold, the exh housing, what the car is revd to etc, no way would it hold on a 4 cylinder, especially one that revs really high there really are too many factors, but there is not one bad thing about having a bigger wastegate than needed to keep the boost under control (except cost and space restrictions) ---
**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/27 "2009-09-29T16:42:12Z")
> [@newman"](#): > > The only reason to run a 44 or 50mm WG is if you’re getting boost creep up. > [@alpha earl](#): > > but there is not one bad thing about having a bigger wastegate than needed to keep the boost under control (except cost and space restrictions) :gotme: ---
**Author:** ![newman](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/newman/32/7569_2.png) [@newman](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/newman)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/28 "2009-09-29T17:41:46Z")
> [@alpha earl](#): > > but there is not one bad thing about having a bigger wastegate than needed to keep the boost under control (except cost and space restrictions) The smallest possible WG will have the most accurate control of boost. ---
**Author:** ![layzie](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/layzie/32/7599_2.png) [@layzie](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/layzie)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/29 "2009-09-29T18:45:46Z")
internal wastegate are the hotness ---
**Author:** ![Willybeen](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/willybeen/32/7351_2.png) [@Willybeen](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Willybeen)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/30 "2009-09-29T19:10:58Z")
> [@theblue](#): > > less complaining and cooking for women, and moar finishing your build plz. AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO AGREES WITH THIS? :bigclap: ---
**Author:** ![Toda\_Party](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/toda_party/32/7354_2.png) [@Toda\_Party](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Toda_Party)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/31 "2009-09-29T20:07:27Z")
hey newman how come u dont run quad 44mm wg’s, 1 for each cyl. Or sext-44mm gates ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/32 "2009-09-29T21:12:12Z")
> [@newman](#): > > The smallest possible WG will have the most accurate control of boost. within a certain paremeter, but on average the larger wg will give you a broader range and more flexibility for shitty designed manifolds difference between 38mm and 44mm control is negligable on most t3/4 turbo (except where needed because of creep), or atleast the 20+ ones ive built/owned ---
**Author:** ![clinzee](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/clinzee/32/5233_2.png) [@clinzee](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/clinzee)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/33 "2009-09-29T23:39:55Z")
Haha this went from being a joke/rant to being a solid informative thread. ---
**Author:** ![HotRodKid](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/hotrodkid/32/7609_2.png) [@HotRodKid](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/HotRodKid)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/34 "2009-09-30T00:16:34Z")
things where bigger (then you actually need) isnt really better wastegate, blow off valve, injectors, maf, throttle body, exhaust tubing oversizing any of those items is like installing a garage door in your living room just so your dog can let himself in / out when he pleases ---
**Author:** ![LowlyOilBurner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a6a055/32.png) [@LowlyOilBurner](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/LowlyOilBurner)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/35 "2009-09-30T02:13:13Z")
[http://www.nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71054](http://www.nyspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71054) I stated this thread a while ago in the tech section, and I’ve been saying for a long time that bigger is not always better. This article had alot of really good explanations and info in it. Good explanation on why the 034Motorsport guys running a 42R on a 5cyl 20vt Audi motor with a siqqqqq 60mm tial had more problems controlling boost with that as opposed to the stock Audi external gates from 1993. The 44 is a pretty good compromise, and vbands are fucking awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Haenszel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e68b1a/32.png) [@Haenszel](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Haenszel)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/36 "2009-09-30T04:12:32Z")
I only ran into creep issues w/my 38mm if I was running ~15lbs – new manifold setup came w/a 44mm v-band and WG… else I woulda kept my old 38. ---
**Author:** ![Harvey](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/harvey/32/5069_2.png) [@Harvey](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Harvey)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/37 "2009-09-30T05:02:33Z")
> [@newman](#): > > The smallest possible WG will have the most accurate control of boost. I’m sure you realize, but you’re splitting hairs. To say that a 44mm is needed is certainly not true for most cars, but you can control boost within a barely measurable range using one. How restrictive your exhaust housing is will play into it too. The WG size for a .63 housing on a 35R will act differently than a 1.06 housing on the same setup. Is 44mm needed for most of us; undoubtedly no. I needed one to make up for my small penis. :rant: ---
**Author:** ![Saxon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@Saxon](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Saxon)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 7:49am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/38 "2009-09-30T07:49:16Z")
> [@HotRodKid](#): > > things where bigger (then you actually need) isnt really better > > wastegate, blow off valve, injectors, maf, throttle body, exhaust tubing > > oversizing any of those items is like installing a garage door in your living room just so your dog can let himself in / out when he pleases depending… just for sake of information i agree with the maf and throttle body, the wastegate is negligable unless your talking about someone running a 60mm wg on a 14b turbo injectors- pretty much any decent engine management these days can idle a 1000cc injector like stock (incase of the bosch injectors better than most stock cars) exhaust size- if a 2.0L na honda can gain 10whp from a 2.5" to a 3" change then i would disagree on this also… especially with a turbo i have yet to see a car lose power… is that bigger exhaust necessary? no but it does not hurt power (hence people running open header) ---
**Author:** ![neonpwr98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/6f9a4e/32.png) [@neonpwr98](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/neonpwr98)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/39 "2009-09-30T08:00:51Z")
On a turbo car you can GAIN power by taking the exhaust off completely ---
**Author:** ![travisn](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/travisn/32/5046_2.png) [@travisn](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/travisn)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181/40 "2009-09-30T08:03:38Z")
> [@neonpwr98](#): > > On a turbo car you can GAIN power by taking the exhaust off completely over spun turbo? [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/44mm-wastegates/74181.md?page=3)