# 458 vs 1198

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**Category:** Shift518 Automotive\
**Created:** [December 3, 2010, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/458-vs-1198/255861 "2010-12-03T23:01:43Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 4, 2010, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/458-vs-1198/255861/7 "2010-12-04T11:50:02Z")

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> [@snowboard boots](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/snowboard-boots/37762/3):
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> hmmmm I think the results could have been even more devastating for the 458 if they had Bayliss on the Ducati, I mean yes Rapp is a good rider but your talking AMA level.

Well, Bell is not exactly Lewis Hamilton either. The bike wins no matter what, how can you not win for something like that at less than 1/10 of the price? :thumbup

22k is Hyundai money man…LOL

But one thing is so true. 80% of the people who got a 458 probably can get 90% out of it, but for the bike, may be 5% of the people who bought it can get 90% out of it.

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