# 4cyl. Domestics n' Imports \*DEBATE\* **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 20, 2005, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847 "2005-01-20T14:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/1 "2005-01-20T14:25:42Z")
Here we go… ---
**Author:** ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:27pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/2 "2005-01-20T14:27:04Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > An engine swap is not a “Bolt on”. And please don;t give me the well you have to bolt it onto the frame… :finger: How don’t you figure? ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/3 "2005-01-20T14:30:46Z")
> [@starboy](#): > > How don’t you figure? Engine swaps are not a bolt on modification it doesn;t bolt onto anything but the frame of the car. Perfomance bolt ons refer to modification that bolt on to an actal engine. Engine swaps are an entire replacement of a motor. There is no ifs ands or buts about it. ---
**Author:** ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/4 "2005-01-20T14:32:15Z")
You just taking one out and putting another in. Bolts Off, Bolts On. Right? I see were your coming from, but how easy it is with hondas i dont see why not… ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/5 "2005-01-20T14:32:17Z")
this thread is retarded, we’re having a perfectly civil debate about this in the other thread ---
**Author:** ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/6 "2005-01-20T14:34:01Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#): > > this thread is retarded, we’re having a perfectly civil debate about this in the other thread because thats more chevy ss based this is general… ---
**Author:** ![Stroker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stroker/32/5948_2.png) [@Stroker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Stroker)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:34pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/7 "2005-01-20T14:34:04Z")
4g63\>all that sums it up for me ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/8 "2005-01-20T14:35:05Z")
throwing the 4g63 and the sr20 into this thread is retarded because they’re really not on the same level as talkinga bout honda swaps ---
**Author:** ![Stroker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stroker/32/5948_2.png) [@Stroker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Stroker)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/9 "2005-01-20T14:35:55Z")
isent the eckotec the fastest 4cyl out right now ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/10 "2005-01-20T14:36:34Z")
> [@turbotalon91](#): > > isent the eckotec the fastest 4cyl out right now yes, it’s in a saturn ion ---
**Author:** ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:36pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/11 "2005-01-20T14:36:41Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#): > > throwing the 4g63 and the sr20 into this thread is retarded because they’re really not on the same level as talkinga bout honda swaps i forgot this was DOmestic v honda ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/12 "2005-01-20T14:37:12Z")
i think 4x the r&d went into it than in rau’s rwd tho ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:37pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/13 "2005-01-20T14:37:57Z")
> [@starboy](#): > > You just taking one out and putting another in. Bolts Off, Bolts On. Right? > I see were your coming from, but how easy it is with hondas i dont see why not… we arn’t talking about swaps thats why it has nothing to do with the conversation. It don;t matter if its easy or not, thats not the basis of the discusioin. Originally I think in the first or second page, two statements come to mid involving “stock” and “Minor mondifications” even if you would consider a swap, it is by no means a “minor Mod” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/14 "2005-01-20T14:38:12Z")
> [@starboy](#): > > i forgot this was DOmestic v honda then change the title from domestic vs import if it’s domestic vs honda ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/15 "2005-01-20T14:38:32Z")
> [@Blue4](#): > > yes, it’s in a saturn ion \ yes beat me to it. ---
**Author:** ![Stroker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stroker/32/5948_2.png) [@Stroker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Stroker)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/16 "2005-01-20T14:38:51Z")
just make this thread ecotec vs honda cuz dosmestic i woiuld pick cosworth also the svo has been know to be fast ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/17 "2005-01-20T14:38:58Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > we arn’t talking about swaps thats why it has nothing to do with the conversation. It don;t matter if its easy or not, thats not the basis of the discusioin. > > Originally I think in the first or second page, two statements come to mid involving “stock” and “Minor mondifications” > > even if you would consider a swap, it is by no means a “minor Mod” > > 🙂 🤣 honda swaps are bolt out, bolt in… ---
**Author:** ![Gray05](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cc9497/32.png) [@Gray05](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Gray05)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/18 "2005-01-20T14:39:20Z")
cosworth/ford/mondeo \> any 4cyl ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/19 "2005-01-20T14:39:21Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#): > > then change the title from domestic vs import if it’s domestic vs honda if you are going to do that and include swaps just delete the thread because this is not what was being discussed in the other thread. ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/20 "2005-01-20T14:39:49Z")
what kinda power is that ion making btw? rau is 1500 at the wheels on a cryo-treated stock 2.0 block [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847.md?page=2)