# 4cyl. Domestics n' Imports \*DEBATE\* **URL:** \ **Category:** PittSpeed Off Topic\ **Created:** [January 20, 2005, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847 "2005-01-20T14:25:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Stroker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stroker/32/5948_2.png) [@Stroker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Stroker)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/21 "2005-01-20T14:41:04Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#): > > what kinda power is that ion making btw? rau is 1500 at the wheels on a cryo-treated stock 2.0 block with no nitrous right?? ---
**Author:** ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/22 "2005-01-20T14:41:05Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > even if you would consider a swap, it is by no means a “minor Mod” your right sorta kinda, with the minor part. But you ahve to admit it is all just bolt on stuff though. You not modifing, your just bolting on… ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/23 "2005-01-20T14:42:08Z")
> [@starboy](#): > > your right sorta kinda, with the minor part. But you ahve to admit it is all just bolt on stuff though. You not modifing, your just bolting on… that’s a dumb way to look atthings cams “bolt in” heads “bolt on” turbos “bolt on” super chargers “bolt on” nitrous “bolts in” ---
**Author:** ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/24 "2005-01-20T14:42:13Z")
> [@turbotalon91](#): > > with no nitrous right?? sc? right the redline? i didnt think the plain ion came with anything 😕 ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/25 "2005-01-20T14:42:46Z")
> [@turbotalon91](#): > > with no nitrous right?? no nitrous ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:42pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/26 "2005-01-20T14:42:49Z")
> [@Blue4](#): > > yes, it’s in a saturn ion actually it is in a nelson hoyo’s cavalier(7.4@197mph) ---
**Author:** ![Stroker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stroker/32/5948_2.png) [@Stroker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Stroker)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/27 "2005-01-20T14:43:12Z")
lost ---
**Author:** ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/28 "2005-01-20T14:43:35Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#): > > that’s a dumb way to look atthings cams “bolt in” heads “bolt on” turbos “bolt on” super chargers “bolt on” nitrous “bolts in” correct but most of the time you have to tune that. Or have some kind of injectors, fuel mods etc etc. ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/29 "2005-01-20T14:43:49Z")
rau’s at a 7.5 at the end of last year ---
**Author:** ![Stroker](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/stroker/32/5948_2.png) [@Stroker](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Stroker)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:44pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/30 "2005-01-20T14:44:49Z")
i’m going to tj’s i expect this to be 8 pages at 30 post a page when i return kthanksbye ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:45pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/31 "2005-01-20T14:45:02Z")
> [@starboy](#): > > correct but most of the time you have to tune that. Or have some kind of injectors, fuel mods etc etc. there’s where your bolt in honda goes wrong, the different motors use different sized injectors and fuel maps, either tune it or swap ecus…thus (by your theory) no longer a bolt-on ---
**Author:** ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/32 "2005-01-20T14:46:33Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#): > > there’s where your bolt in honda goes wrong, the different motors use different sized injectors and fuel maps, either tune it or swap ecus…thus (by your theory) no longer a bolt-on correct again but most swaps, come with everything. Ecu, tranny, injectors etc. etc. ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/33 "2005-01-20T14:47:29Z")
> [@starboy](#): > > correct but most of the time you have to tune that. Or have some kind of injectors, fuel mods etc etc. what does tuning have to do with what it actually is, Ok you have a b16 and are going to BOLT ON a H22. please discribe the the steps on how to BOLT ON a H22 TO A B16 😃 I expect this to be completed by the end of the night. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/34 "2005-01-20T14:49:30Z")
> [@Sight N Sound](#): > > I expect this to be completed by the end of the night. 🤣 its not gonna be in my own words but we can have that happen ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/35 "2005-01-20T14:49:35Z")
> [@BlueMeanieTSi](#): > > rau’s at a 7.5 at the end of last year hoyo’s is faster than rau in a FWD at that ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/36 "2005-01-20T14:49:37Z")
> [@starboy](#): > > correct again but most swaps, come with everything. > Ecu, tranny, injectors etc. etc. then you its a drive train REPLACEMENT. Not a Bolt On to the motor the car came with… ---
**Author:** ![starboy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/starboy/32/5985_2.png) [@starboy](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/starboy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/37 "2005-01-20T14:51:03Z")
look what im saying is IT way easier to throw another engine in a honda imports then it is in a domestic. You cant deny that. When most or all buy a honda and it got a sh\*tty motor thats always in there head. ---
**Author:** ![Sight\_N\_Sound](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/user_avatar/forums.speedlife.net/sight_n_sound/32/5950_2.png) [@Sight\_N\_Sound](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/Sight_N_Sound)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/38 "2005-01-20T14:51:04Z")
> [@starboy](#): > > its not gonna be in my own words but we can have that happen Dude you would have a TWO ENGINE car if you bolted the H22 onto the B16…lol I hope you caught that in the wording… I din;t ask you for a SWAP or REPLACEMENT of the B16 with a H22. I want directions to BOLT IT RIGHT ONTO the B16 😃 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex034/uploads/speedlife/original/2X/b/b7170c8eddc0b95ece6b88172b2f416a08489a45.png) [@system](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/39 "2005-01-20T14:52:11Z")
most sanctioning bodies call motor swaps power adders edit: and they must come from the same make of vehicle ---
**Author:** ![T70\_Tsi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@T70\_Tsi](https://forums.speedlife.net/u/T70_Tsi)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2005, 2:52pm UTC](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847/40 "2005-01-20T14:52:34Z")
he’s writing his rules as he goes…swaps coming with tuning stuff so now it’s still a bolt on… [Previous page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.speedlife.net/t/4cyl-domestics-n-imports-debate/171847.md?page=3)